WinPilot-compatible GPS devices

Can anyone familiar with the WinPilot product tell me whether my DeLorme
Earthmate GPS Receiver (with DB-15 serial interface) will work with it?

If not, what advice would you offer regarding iPac (or other pocket PC)
models, and portable GPS devices to use with WinPilot?

-ted

Ted Wagner wrote:
Can anyone familiar with the WinPilot product tell me whether my DeLorme
Earthmate GPS Receiver (with DB-15 serial interface) will work with it?

Actually, the Earthmate has a DE9 (a.k.a. DB9) serial connector, and it
is not compatible with WinPilot (or any other glide software), as it
emits only Rockwell binary protocol, not the more common NMEA.

If not, what advice would you offer regarding iPac (or other pocket PC)
models, and portable GPS devices to use with WinPilot?

If you don't need to send GPS data to any other devices, the simplest
combination is a Dell Axim X5 combined with a CompactFlash GPS unit.
See the following websites for possible setups:

http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/index.htm
http://www.craggyaero.com/

Marc

On Fri, 26 Dec 2003 17:47:37 GMT, Marc Ramsey
wrote:

Ted Wagner wrote:
Can anyone familiar with the WinPilot product tell me whether my DeLorme
Earthmate GPS Receiver (with DB-15 serial interface) will work with it?

Actually, the Earthmate has a DE9 (a.k.a. DB9) serial connector, and it
is not compatible with WinPilot (or any other glide software), as it
emits only Rockwell binary protocol, not the more common NMEA.

If not, what advice would you offer regarding iPac (or other pocket PC)
models, and portable GPS devices to use with WinPilot?

If you don't need to send GPS data to any other devices, the simplest
combination is a Dell Axim X5 combined with a CompactFlash GPS unit.
See the following websites for possible setups:

http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/index.htm
http://www.craggyaero.com/

Marc


Be a little careful what you use as a GPS source. I've seen two
Colibri loggers where the GPS altitude was heavily filtered. In one
case it lagged the pressure latitude by 30 seconds in the other by 10
seconds. This can do interestingthings to final glide computers.

When using unknown GPS receivers you really don't know necessarily how
the receiver has been configured which is why I prefer Garmin 35 or 15
receivers which are completely user configurable.

Mike Borgelt

The Garmin 35 is inexpensive (often available on eBay) and works well.
It can be mounted below the instrument cover on many models such as
our LS-1. Power draw is low, but watch the voltage requirements since
there are several configurations of the Garmin 35 available (the 35 is
actually an OEM device).

Skip Guimond

On 27 Dec 2003 10:39:32 -0800, (Skip Guimond)
wrote:

The Garmin 35 is inexpensive (often available on eBay) and works well.
It can be mounted below the instrument cover on many models such as
our LS-1. Power draw is low, but watch the voltage requirements since
there are several configurations of the Garmin 35 available (the 35 is
actually an OEM device).

Skip Guimond


The G35HVS is the one you want. Connect straight to 12 volts.

Mike Borgelt

Mike Borgelt wrote:
The G35HVS is the one you want. Connect straight to 12 volts.

For use with PDAs, the new Garmin GPS 18 LVC is worth a look. Supports
WAAS/EGNOS, under 2 1/2" in diameter and 3/4" high, needs 5 VDC (but so
does the PDA), street price is $80US. Downsides are the fact that it
isn't available yet (1st quarter 2004), and has a non-removable magnetic
base, like just about every other cheap mouse-style receiver...

Marc

The iPaq H5xxx models have a larger display than any of the other
current iPaqs. However they have inadequate audio sound level. The
H3xxx models also had the large display and had good audio. Look for
a H3950 or the new H5150. '

Regardless of the iPaq model you will need one of the Boxwave
"Cleartouch" antireflective films as sold by Craggyaero.com, along
with an efficient 5v power supply from the glider battery. A mouse
type GPS could be useful, like the Garmin G35HVS (12 volts).

Paul Remde has a good selection of bits and advice on his site
http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/

Cheers,

Jim Kelly.


"Ted Wagner" wrote in message
news:8eZGb.14436$7D3.11470@fed1read02...
| Can anyone familiar with the WinPilot product tell me whether my
DeLorme
| Earthmate GPS Receiver (with DB-15 serial interface) will work
with it?
|
| If not, what advice would you offer regarding iPac (or other
pocket PC)
| models, and portable GPS devices to use with WinPilot?
|
| -ted
|
|

If anyone is interested, I would like to sell my iPAQ 3955.
It is in "like new" shape.

I had intended to use it for soaring, but in the end
couldn't part with the other $500 or so to get it running
WinPilot, only to have difficulty reading it in the cockpit.

David



"Jim Kelly" wrote in message . au...
The iPaq H5xxx models have a larger display than any of the other
current iPaqs. However they have inadequate audio sound level. The
H3xxx models also had the large display and had good audio. Look for
a H3950 or the new H5150. '

Regardless of the iPaq model you will need one of the Boxwave
"Cleartouch" antireflective films as sold by Craggyaero.com, along
with an efficient 5v power supply from the glider battery. A mouse
type GPS could be useful, like the Garmin G35HVS (12 volts).

Paul Remde has a good selection of bits and advice on his site
http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/

Cheers,

Jim Kelly.


"Ted Wagner" wrote in message
news:8eZGb.14436$7D3.11470@fed1read02...
| Can anyone familiar with the WinPilot product tell me whether my
DeLorme
| Earthmate GPS Receiver (with DB-15 serial interface) will work
with it?
|
| If not, what advice would you offer regarding iPac (or other
pocket PC)
| models, and portable GPS devices to use with WinPilot?
|
| -ted
|
|

Since my original posting on this topic, I've purchased an HP iPaq 5555 and
a NavMan 4400 wireless GPS. I've got those two working great together on the
ground, but have yet to test them in the air.

I haven't yet flown with them because I currenty fly rental sailplanes,
usually a Pilatus B-4, where there's no mount for the iPaq. It's easy to
tuck the GPS receiver somewhere (or even leave it in my pocket), but I have
no place to put the iPaq.

Does anyone make a device that lets me wear it on my leg, above me knee?

What have other pilots done in this situation?

-ted

"Jim Kelly" wrote in message
u...
The iPaq H5xxx models have a larger display than any of the other
current iPaqs. However they have inadequate audio sound level. The
H3xxx models also had the large display and had good audio. Look for
a H3950 or the new H5150. '

Regardless of the iPaq model you will need one of the Boxwave
"Cleartouch" antireflective films as sold by Craggyaero.com, along
with an efficient 5v power supply from the glider battery. A mouse
type GPS could be useful, like the Garmin G35HVS (12 volts).

Paul Remde has a good selection of bits and advice on his site
http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/

Cheers,

Jim Kelly.


"Ted Wagner" wrote in message
news:8eZGb.14436$7D3.11470@fed1read02...
| Can anyone familiar with the WinPilot product tell me whether my
DeLorme
| Earthmate GPS Receiver (with DB-15 serial interface) will work
with it?
|
| If not, what advice would you offer regarding iPac (or other
pocket PC)
| models, and portable GPS devices to use with WinPilot?
|
| -ted
|
|

"Ted Wagner" wrote:
Does anyone make a device that lets me wear it on my leg,
above me knee?

Please don't do that, it makes the rest of us nervous when your head is down
in the cockpit, looking at a screen.

What have other pilots done in this situation?

I'd suggest using a RAM suction cup mount with one of their PDA holders.
They can be mounted on the canopy securely and without damage, if you are
careful. Total cost for all the pieces should be around $50. See:

http://www.soarmn.com/cumulus/index.htm
http://www.gpscity.com/

Marc