Proficiency check by a CFI for an additional Sport Pilot privilegesubstitutes for a Flight Review.

See letter from General Aviation and Commercial Division, Flight Standards Service dated 24 April 2017:

http://indocap.com/FAA/FAA-AFS800_Palmer1.pdf

This is the solution for certificated pilots who wish to add a Glider rating but cannot solo because they have no current Flight Review and therefor cannot meet the requirements for a Private Glider add-on.

Now simply get a Sport Pilot Glider add-on which substitutes for a Flight Review. Once that is done, the pilot can solo which will allow him to meet all of the requirements for the Private Glider add-on. Also, once he has Sport Pilot Glider privileges, all flight time, including instruction time, will be PIC time which makes it easy for him to skip the Private and go straight to the Commercial Glider add-on.

Stephen

On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 5:49:18 PM UTC-7, Fixed Wing wrote:
See letter from General Aviation and Commercial Division, Flight Standards Service dated 24 April 2017:

http://indocap.com/FAA/FAA-AFS800_Palmer1.pdf

This is the solution for certificated pilots who wish to add a Glider rating but cannot solo because they have no current Flight Review and therefor cannot meet the requirements for a Private Glider add-on.

Now simply get a Sport Pilot Glider add-on which substitutes for a Flight Review. Once that is done, the pilot can solo which will allow him to meet all of the requirements for the Private Glider add-on. Also, once he has Sport Pilot Glider privileges, all flight time, including instruction time, will be PIC time which makes it easy for him to skip the Private and go straight to the Commercial Glider add-on.

Stephen

There is still another way through the Wings program. Completion of a Wings phase counts as a flight review. The pilot wanting the glider add on can complete the required knowledge phases on-line or attend qualified seminars, then complete the required dual flights in a glider. Complete the entries on-line and the pilot can print out his flight review certificate. Tape or staple this certificate in the logbook and he/she is on the way to solo. This avenue was presented to me by a FAAST team member and DPE.

Blue Skys,

Bob

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:06:07 AM UTC-4, Robert Ballou wrote:

There is still another way through the Wings program. Completion of a Wings phase counts as a flight review. The pilot wanting the glider add on can complete the required knowledge phases on-line or attend qualified seminars, then complete the required dual flights in a glider. Complete the entries on-line and the pilot can print out his flight review certificate. Tape or staple this certificate in the logbook and he/she is on the way to solo. This avenue was presented to me by a FAAST team member and DPE.


I saw that. In fact, the earlier thread here where this was discussed was one of the impetuses for me to act.

There is one big advantage of adding the SportPilot/Glider over the Wings program. The SportPilot/Glider requires the pilot to do exactly what he would be doing anyway to earn his rating whereas the Wings program has other requirements. And once the SportPilot/Glider has been earned (indeed, even during the check-ride) the pilot will be earning PIC time. With the Wings program, the pilot will be no further along.

The big disadvantage is that the SportPilot/Glider check-ride must be conducted in an aircraft which fits within the SportPilot requirements. so you need a glider as slow as the 2-33. The Wings program can be done in anything with an "N" number on it.

Stephen

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 5:46:23 PM UTC+3, Fixed Wing wrote:
On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:06:07 AM UTC-4, Robert Ballou wrote:

There is still another way through the Wings program. Completion of a Wings phase counts as a flight review. The pilot wanting the glider add on can complete the required knowledge phases on-line or attend qualified seminars, then complete the required dual flights in a glider. Complete the entries on-line and the pilot can print out his flight review certificate. Tape or staple this certificate in the logbook and he/she is on the way to solo.. This avenue was presented to me by a FAAST team member and DPE.


I saw that. In fact, the earlier thread here where this was discussed was one of the impetuses for me to act.

There is one big advantage of adding the SportPilot/Glider over the Wings program. The SportPilot/Glider requires the pilot to do exactly what he would be doing anyway to earn his rating whereas the Wings program has other requirements. And once the SportPilot/Glider has been earned (indeed, even during the check-ride) the pilot will be earning PIC time. With the Wings program, the pilot will be no further along.

The big disadvantage is that the SportPilot/Glider check-ride must be conducted in an aircraft which fits within the SportPilot requirements. so you need a glider as slow as the 2-33. The Wings program can be done in anything with an "N" number on it.

In many countries you seem to be allowed a 135 knot Vne in a LSA glider. But even something as high performance as a Janus fits into the USA 120 knot Vne limit -- no need to torture yourself with a 2-33!

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 11:47:21 AM UTC-4, Bruce Hoult wrote:

In many countries you seem to be allowed a 135 knot Vne in a LSA glider. But even something as high performance as a Janus fits into the USA 120 knot Vne limit -- no need to torture yourself with a 2-33!

Actually, a glider pilot could live quite nicely with the SportPilot/Glider.. Most of what glider pilots do is solo. For slower gliders, the pilot is already legal. For the faster gliders, all he needs is a solo signoff. And, unlike a Student solo signoff, it needn't be limited to 90 days. No real reason why he shouldn't just get signed off for his trusty little high performance glider and glide off into the sunset with it.

Stephen