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Old March 14th 05, 02:55 PM
Rich S.
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I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from some
federal agency. The news reporters, with their usual knowledgeable
brilliance, were saying that now that the airlines and major airports are
secure, terrorists are looking at general aviation aircraft and helicopters
to threaten the public.

All the while, the background shots are showing a Tri-pacer and an RV-4
shooting t&g's at Arlington (KAWO). The talking heads didn't really get
specific about the nature of the threat.

Rich "Here we go again" S.


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Old March 14th 05, 05:17 PM
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("Rich S." wrote)
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I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from some
federal agency. The news reporters, with their usual knowledgeable
brilliance, were saying that now that the airlines and major airports are
secure, terrorists are looking at general aviation aircraft and helicopters
to threaten the public.



Minivan, small pickup, large car, small car, idiot with a bulky coat. Pick
one ...or two, or three. Wait! How about just the bomb itself, sitting by
the roadside?

I'm off to Google to do a search for:
"deaths in Iraq" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Spain" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Israel" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Lebanon" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Russia" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Saudi Arabia" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Philippines" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Kenya" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in London" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer
"deaths in Oklahoma" + RV-4 + Tri-Pacer


Montblack

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Old March 14th 05, 06:06 PM
C J Campbell
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"Rich S." wrote in message
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I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from some
federal agency. The news reporters, with their usual knowledgeable
brilliance, were saying that now that the airlines and major airports are
secure, terrorists are looking at general aviation aircraft and

helicopters
to threaten the public.

All the while, the background shots are showing a Tri-pacer and an RV-4
shooting t&g's at Arlington (KAWO). The talking heads didn't really get
specific about the nature of the threat.


Well, as you noted, our local CBS affiliate was pretty hysterical in its
reporting. The actual AP press release attributes all this to "officials."
No names and not even any definite organization that they are working for.

The vast majority of terrorist attacks has been with car bombs, rocket
propelled grenades, and mines. Yet I don't see calls by anonymous
"officials" for metal detectors and explosives sniffers in every garage.

I want these anonymous "officials" who keep saying stuff like this publicly
identified. It is time to pull rank, nametags and badge numbers. I want them
fired.


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Old March 14th 05, 07:19 PM
Rich S.
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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Well, as you noted, our local CBS affiliate was pretty hysterical in its
reporting.


I missed them. The shots I saw were on King 5. I'll catch CBS tonight. :-|

Rich S.


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Old March 15th 05, 03:35 AM
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Rich S. wrote:
I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from some
federal agency.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680055.shtml

I think this might be it. I looked up at 5:30 CST and saw AOPA's Boyer
telling 'em GA is no threat.

Some old guy responded that a Cessna with 200 pounds of fertilizer was
dangerous enough to recreate the Oklahoma City bombing. I sighed.
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Old March 15th 05, 09:42 AM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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StellaStarr wrote:

Rich S. wrote:

I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from
some federal agency.



http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680055.shtml

I think this might be it. I looked up at 5:30 CST and saw AOPA's Boyer
telling 'em GA is no threat.

Some old guy responded that a Cessna with 200 pounds of fertilizer was
dangerous enough to recreate the Oklahoma City bombing. I sighed.


It would need 200 pounds of fuel like diesel also. In any event if
memory serves the Ryder had something like 4 tons of explosive.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Old March 15th 05, 03:46 PM
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I think I saw the same report. I thought the guy said a Cessna and 200 lb
of C-4. A big difference from 200 lb of NAFO. The real question is where
does one get 200 lb of C-4 into this country without someone noticing? I
suppose you could steal it from Uncle, but that's not so easy. Also, at
least at our airport someone would notice some Arab-looking guys loading
that stuff into a Cessna and the Police helicopter is based right on the
field. Cars and trucks seem to be a much bigger threat.
--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"StellaStarr" wrote in message
news:0KsZd.130210$tl3.9860@attbi_s02...
Rich S. wrote:
I just saw an item on the morning news regarding a "new" report from

some
federal agency.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in680055.shtml

I think this might be it. I looked up at 5:30 CST and saw AOPA's Boyer
telling 'em GA is no threat.

Some old guy responded that a Cessna with 200 pounds of fertilizer was
dangerous enough to recreate the Oklahoma City bombing. I sighed.



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Old March 15th 05, 07:25 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Bob Chilcoat wrote:
I think I saw the same report. I thought the guy said a Cessna and 200 lb
of C-4. A big difference from 200 lb of NAFO. The real question is where
does one get 200 lb of C-4 into this country without someone noticing? I
suppose you could steal it from Uncle, but that's not so easy. Also, at
least at our airport someone would notice some Arab-looking guys loading
that stuff into a Cessna and the Police helicopter is based right on the
field. Cars and trucks seem to be a much bigger threat.
--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)



Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available
telling how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say
which ones are good. As for loading the stuff onto an airplane what's to
stop the bad guys from stealing or renting the airplane then taking it
elsewhere to load?

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 15th 05, 08:48 PM
Rich S.
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"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
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Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available telling
how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say which ones
are good. As for loading the stuff onto an airplane what's to stop the bad
guys from stealing or renting the airplane then taking it elsewhere to
load?

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired


Okay . . . you told him. Now yur gonna have to kill him.

Rich "The Pirate's Code" S.


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Old March 15th 05, 08:52 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Rich S. wrote:

"Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired" wrote in message
news:JEGZd.30261$Sn6.16933@lakeread03...

Plastic explosives aren't hard to make. There are books available telling
how to do it. Most are dangerous, but not all. No, I won't say which ones
are good. As for loading the stuff onto an airplane what's to stop the bad
guys from stealing or renting the airplane then taking it elsewhere to
load?

The advantage of an airplane over a car bomb is you can actually get to
the building and the specific level.

Dan (veteran kamikaze pilot) U.S. Air Force, retired



Okay . . . you told him. Now yur gonna have to kill him.

Rich "The Pirate's Code" S.


Hey, I killed enough people in the 100 Years War.

Dan (who takes vitamin C for codes), U.S. Air Force, retired
 




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