Yet another media outlet gets it WRONG

Woke up this morning (5/25/05) to hear this on WPLJ in NY (in reference
to the ADIZ incursion a couple weeks ago)...

- Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were
literally seconds away from doing so...

- The "CFI" had his "license" revoked...

- The "student pilot" would not be charged...

Ugh... there ought to be a way to file a lawsuit against the media for
spreading false information like this. I can't quite call it lying,
because they most likely just got their news from "other sources", but
geez, what is it going to take to get the record set straight in this
country?

--
jr

Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up
local newspeople.

They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you
fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous
mass" small planes have, etc.

Take them on a flight for a nice meal a distance away, and you'd
probably get some converts.

On land, this would be called a press conference.


"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up
local newspeople.

They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you
fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous
mass" small planes have, etc.

Take them on a flight for a nice meal a distance away, and you'd
probably get some converts.

"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up
local newspeople.

They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you
fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous
mass" small planes have, etc.

That is actually a very good idea.

-c

Guy Elden Jr wrote:


- Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were
literally seconds away from doing so...

I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very
close to being shutdown.

- The "CFI" had his "license" revoked...

No CFI, but even REC.AVIATORS who should no better have been making
this error right and left.

- The "student pilot" would not be charged...

Have you heard anything to the contrary?

AOPA has had such a program for a long time. Once upon a time I took it upon
myself to have a media day at Boeing Field. Got a great turnout from FBO's,
charter operators, et al. I called all of the local print and TV outlets,
plus the Associated Press, and asked them to send representatives who were
not their normal "aviation" writers but people who need to learn about
aviation. Media turnout was poor, and the ones who showed up were the
"aviation specialists." What a waste of time and money. Only one accepted
the offer of a ride.

Bob Gardner

"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up
local newspeople.

They could show them that throttling back the engine doesn't make you
fall out of the air, explain stalls, point out how little a "dangerous
mass" small planes have, etc.

Take them on a flight for a nice meal a distance away, and you'd
probably get some converts.

Howdy!

In article .com,
Guy Elden Jr wrote:
Woke up this morning (5/25/05) to hear this on WPLJ in NY (in reference
to the ADIZ incursion a couple weeks ago)...

[snip details of "news" "piece"]

This morning, I heard the local news station, WTOP, interviewing
Congressman Jim Moran. Moran was speaking about the move to reopen
DCA to GA, and noted that the restrictions being discussed were still
problematic, but that this was, at least, movement in the right
direction.

Also discussed was a realistic assessment of the kinds of threats that
Cessna *could* have posed, had it been hostile, along with mention of
how the pilots of the intercepting aircraft could apparently discern
some degree of confusion in the offending aircraft, as well as not
seeing a genuine threat. Further, Moran noted just how small the risk
of having the aircraft hit something actually posed, even if it had
a couple hundred pounds of TNT aboard. In addition, it was noted, both
by Moran and by the newsman posing thoughtful and clueful questions,
that running everyone out into the open exposed them to much greater
risk than sheltering in place, given the sorts of threats that were
actually possible.

It was very refreshing to hear.

yours,
Michael


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Ron Natalie wrote:
Guy Elden Jr wrote:


- Rumsfeld had ordered the plane to be shot down, and they were
literally seconds away from doing so...

I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very
close to being shutdown.

I think that's a very big deal though. The claim that an order was
actually made is a far cry from just debating the point, which is
probably SOP anyway for any incursion that gets close enough to the
restricted zone at the center of the ADIZ.


- The "CFI" had his "license" revoked...

No CFI, but even REC.AVIATORS who should no better have been making
this error right and left.

It gives a very bad impression of instructors when they go calling this
guy an instructor. Call him a country bumpkin who should've known
better, because that's what he is.

- The "student pilot" would not be charged...

Have you heard anything to the contrary?

Point here (and granted, this is really more a technicality for pilots)
is that the student pilot was not, at the time of the incident, acting
in the capacity of a student pilot. He couldn't have been, because the
guy who was acting as PIC was not an instructor. So the whole scenario
that this radio station described was factually wrong on several
accounts, and paints a very different picture... i.e., "instructor &
student" vs "pilot and passenger".

--
jr

Ron Natalie wrote:

I don't know if Rumsfeld was in the loop, but they were very
close to being shutdown.

AOPA said the Rumsfeld was informed and that they were discussing shooting the
aircraft down when it turned.

George Patterson
"Naked" means you ain't got no clothes on; "nekkid" means you ain't got
no clothes on - and are up to somethin'.

"Kev" wrote in message
ups.com...
Perhaps AOPA should start a "News Eagles" program, where pilots take up
local newspeople.


why waste good avgas on morons