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The site is down at the moment, but if I'm understanding it correctly, do
these guys actually penetrate hurricanes in P3s and Gulfstreams? Do they go IMC flying into hurricane cloud??? If so, how the hell are they not constantly stalling as they are buffetted by the turbulence? I'm pretty sure that they'd slow down to maneuvering speed, and I'd assume that there'd be moments when windshear would be drastic How the hell are these flights even technically possible?? |
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Yup... They do shake, rattle, and roll
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"xerj" wrote
The site is down at the moment, but if I'm understanding it correctly, do these guys actually penetrate hurricanes in P3s and Gulfstreams? Do they go IMC flying into hurricane cloud??? Yes, although I was not a "Hurricane Hunter", while on patrol in the Taiwan Strait, I did fly through a hurricane (typhoon) at an altitude of about 500'. Yes, it was rough! Yes, we were IMC a lot of the time. Yes, there are a lot better things to do for a living with an airplane. Yes, I have friends who flew for the "Hurricane Hunters" after they left the Navy. No, I don't want to do that again. Bob Moore A US Navy LT back then in 1967 VP-46 |
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Bob Moore wrote:
Yes, there are a lot better things to do for a living with an airplane. As far as I know, over all those years of "hurricane hunting", there has never been an accident. Stefan |
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![]() Stefan wrote: As far as I know, over all those years of "hurricane hunting", there has never been an accident. Stefan I think there was one, but I don't remember when or details. I perused the "Hurricane Hunters" site in depth last year, and as I recall, there is an optimum altitude for eyewall penetration to avoid worst conditions. 5- 10 thousand feet maybe. Amazing young men in their flying machines! ~D |
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![]() Stefan wrote: Bob Moore wrote: Yes, there are a lot better things to do for a living with an airplane. As far as I know, over all those years of "hurricane hunting", there has never been an accident. There have been several fatal accidents. Check the left column in: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurr...rricanes_x.htm |
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"xerj" writes:
The site is down at the moment, but if I'm understanding it correctly, do these guys actually penetrate hurricanes in P3s and Gulfstreams? Do they go IMC flying into hurricane cloud??? If so, how the hell are they not constantly stalling as they are buffetted by the turbulence? I'm pretty sure that they'd slow down to maneuvering speed, and I'd assume that there'd be moments when windshear would be drastic How the hell are these flights even technically possible?? Fascinating article on a semi-accidental penetration of Hugo in a WP-3D (the accident was they didn't notice the storm had been upgraded, and they probably wouldn't have chosen to make the penetration given the actual state of the storm). With pictures. http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/hugo1.asp -- David Dyer-Bennet, , http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/ RKBA: http://noguns-nomoney.com/ http://www.dd-b.net/carry/ Pics: http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/ http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/ Dragaera/Steven Brust: http://dragaera.info/ |
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Stubby wrote:
There have been several fatal accidents. Check the left column in: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurr...rricanes_x.htm I stand corrected: In the last 50 years, there was one accident. This last accident has been thirty years ago. Of course it needs a lot of courage and knowledge to undertake such a flight. Stefan |
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![]() Stefan wrote: Stubby wrote: There have been several fatal accidents. Check the left column in: http://www.usatoday.com/weather/hurr...rricanes_x.htm I stand corrected: In the last 50 years, there was one accident. This last accident has been thirty years ago. Please read the cited article. 4 flights, 34 men lost: Fatal flights Since the first hurricane flights in 1944, four airplanes have gone down in storms. All of the men aboard the four airplanes were lost. Oct. 26, 1952: An Air Force WB-29 was lost in Typhoon Wilma over the Pacific with 10 men aboard. Sept. 26, 1955: A Navy P-2V-5F disappeared in Hurricane Janet over the Caribbean Sea with nine Navy men and two Canadian journalists aboard. Jan. 15, 1958: An Air Force WB-50 disappeared southeast of Guam while flying into Super Typhoon Ophelia with nine men aboard. Oct. 12, 1974: An Air Force WC-130 went down in Typhoon Bess over the South China Sea with six men aboard. Search airplanes picked up signals from a crash-location radio beacon and reported seeing seat cushions and oxygen bottles, which could have been from the airplane, in the water Source: Hurricane Watch: Forecasting the Deadliest Storms on Earth by Dr. Bob Sheets and Jack Williams. |
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Stubby wrote:
I stand corrected: In the last 50 years, there was one accident. This last accident has been thirty years ago. Oct. 26, 1952: Sept. 26, 1955: Jan. 15, 1958: Oct. 12, 1974: But this is exactly what I wrote. (Ok, should have been 47 years.) Stefan |
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