simple prop overhaul

At my annual, the IA said my plane is in great, clean safe condition, but I
need to have my prop overhauled. It's a 2 blade aluminum prop on a Lycoming
235/L2 engine. My understanding is that it just needs a clean up, some paint
and filler, then a balance and return to service. Has anyone done this
recently, and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks all.
Marty

Marty from Florida wrote:

Has anyone done this
recently, and what should I expect to pay?

Not recently, but about 12 years ago, my 150 prop overhaul cost about $500 at
Eastern Propellor Service.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"MfF" == Marty from Florida marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net writes:

MfF At my annual, the IA said my plane is in great, clean safe
MfF condition, but I need to have my prop overhauled. It's a 2
MfF blade aluminum prop on a Lycoming 235/L2 engine. My
MfF understanding is that it just needs a clean up, some paint
MfF and filler, then a balance and return to service. Has anyone
MfF done this recently, and what should I expect to pay?

I had the above done plus a check of the pitch and dressing of the
leading edge to a 71" C-90 prop for $375 at Stockton Propeller in
N. California...but it wasn't a complete overhaul. The latter would
have involved a magnaflux check and maybe some other checks.

If you are operating under part 91 your IA is wrong...you may not have
to overhaul it

Bob Fry wrote:
"MfF" == Marty from Florida marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net writes:

MfF At my annual, the IA said my plane is in great, clean safe
MfF condition, but I need to have my prop overhauled. It's a 2
MfF blade aluminum prop on a Lycoming 235/L2 engine. My
MfF understanding is that it just needs a clean up, some paint
MfF and filler, then a balance and return to service. Has anyone
MfF done this recently, and what should I expect to pay?

I had the above done plus a check of the pitch and dressing of the
leading edge to a 71" C-90 prop for $375 at Stockton Propeller in
N. California...but it wasn't a complete overhaul. The latter would
have involved a magnaflux check and maybe some other checks.

$1500-$2000.




Marty from Florida wrote:
At my annual, the IA said my plane is in great, clean safe condition, but I
need to have my prop overhauled. It's a 2 blade aluminum prop on a Lycoming
235/L2 engine. My understanding is that it just needs a clean up, some paint
and filler, then a balance and return to service. Has anyone done this
recently, and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks all.
Marty

Newps wrote:
$1500-$2000.

For a fixed-pitch aluminum prop???

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

I called our local prop shop and got a quote for $ 570.00 to sand, paint and
test my simple propeller + $ 100 to remove and install it. In conversation,
it turns out that the entire fleet of 152's with the McCaully prop now has 2
AD's on them. One is a recurring annual item, the other addresses the way
the prop is fastened to the engine. My best venue would be to toss the prop
and get a Sensenich which has been in use on these planes for 20 years and
has no issues or AD's.

If anyone has a prop that would fit my 1982 C152 with a Lycoming 0-235/L2
engine, please let me know. I don't want to have to service a prop annually!

Thanks again.
Marty




"Marty from Florida" marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net wrote in message
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At my annual, the IA said my plane is in great, clean safe condition, but
I
need to have my prop overhauled. It's a 2 blade aluminum prop on a
Lycoming
235/L2 engine. My understanding is that it just needs a clean up, some
paint
and filler, then a balance and return to service. Has anyone done this
recently, and what should I expect to pay?

Thanks all.
Marty

"Marty from Florida" marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net wrote in message
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If anyone has a prop that would fit my 1982 C152 with a Lycoming 0-235/L2
engine, please let me know. I don't want to have to service a prop
annually!

Thanks again.
Marty

After reading what I think is the recurring AD for that prop, it's not
necessarily an overhaul, but an inspection. It is to check for cracks at the
bolt holes around the hub. This inspection is to be done every 800 hrs or 12
months, if it's OK the prop is painted and returned to service. The other AD
(one-time) has to do with specific bolts and a spacer used to mount the
prop. So you said it was $100 to r/r the prop? How much is a dye test for
cracks? to paint?

--
Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....

Mike,

Thanks for the comment. I'm pretty certain the one time AD for the bolt
holes has been complied with, but I'll check to be sure (I've only had this
152 for a few months). The annual inspection was completed last year with a
dye test for $ 52.00 from a mechanic who is 1,400 miles from where the plane
now lives. I called a local shop, and was told a dye test involved 80% of a
complete overhaul, in that the prop had to be pulled, scraped, tested, and
re-painted. I'm confused about how someone could do this for $ 52.00, but
I'm also in Palm Beach Florida, where dishonesty is only superseded by
incompetence. (Sorry for the bitching, but I've been handed a lot of
nonsense from professionals in my area). I had a new alternator installed by
a very expensive shop, only to find the main harness and wires were pressed
hard against an exhaust pipe.



The reason I need an overhaul is not to comply with the AD, but because the
prop is rough. No visible nicks or cracks, and it doesn't have any
noticeable vibration, but the surface is anything but smooth. At annual, the
IA said it needed an overhaul to be airworthy, and when I found out what it
would cost to just sand and paint a prop, I was amazed. If any A&P's read
this, please toss in an opinion. If anyone has a replacement Sensenich
72CKS6-0-56, please drop me an email.



Marty






"Mike W." wrote in message
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"Marty from Florida" marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net wrote in
message
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If anyone has a prop that would fit my 1982 C152 with a Lycoming
0-235/L2
engine, please let me know. I don't want to have to service a prop
annually!

Thanks again.
Marty

After reading what I think is the recurring AD for that prop, it's not
necessarily an overhaul, but an inspection. It is to check for cracks at
the
bolt holes around the hub. This inspection is to be done every 800 hrs or
12
months, if it's OK the prop is painted and returned to service. The other
AD
(one-time) has to do with specific bolts and a spacer used to mount the
prop. So you said it was $100 to r/r the prop? How much is a dye test for
cracks? to paint?

--
Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict....

If you replace the prop with a new McCauley, all new S/Ns with letter Kxxxx
and later are AD free. But the cost of a new Sensenich or a new McCauley
for the 152 is now around $2500. I bit the bullet a few years ago (tired
of the recurring ADs)and went with a new McCauley. I saw no difference in
performance other than the balance of the new prop (better).

Good luck,
John Severyn
KLVK


"Aaron Coolidge" wrote in message
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Marty from Florida marty@-x-x-x- remove -x-x- worth.net wrote:
: I called our local prop shop and got a quote for $ 570.00 to sand, paint
and
: test my simple propeller + $ 100 to remove and install it. In
conversation,
: it turns out that the entire fleet of 152's with the McCaully prop now
has 2
: AD's on them. One is a recurring annual item, the other addresses the
way
: the prop is fastened to the engine. My best venue would be to toss the
prop
: and get a Sensenich which has been in use on these planes for 20 years
and
: has no issues or AD's.

: If anyone has a prop that would fit my 1982 C152 with a Lycoming
0-235/L2
: engine, please let me know. I don't want to have to service a prop
annually!

Hi Marty, conversation with a friend who used to own a 152 indicates that
the
Sensenich conversion wes the best thing he ever did for the airplane. He
gained several knots airspeed - he said 10 but I find that hard to
believe -
and removed the AD requirements. Of course, he was one of the first
customers, it was 10 years ago, and the price was less than $1000.
--
Aaron C.