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Mystery - Jet Powered Sailplane - Van Nuys Airport



 
 
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Old October 11th 05, 01:47 PM
genehil genehil is offline
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Default Mystery - Jet Powered Sailplane - Van Nuys Airport

Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I can't find any info on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point me in the right direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a G.I. in the 1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh

Last edited by genehil : October 11th 05 at 01:55 PM.
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Old October 11th 05, 05:22 PM
Al Eddie
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Looks like nothing more than a li'l old U-2 to me...

;o)


At 16:12 11 October 2005, Genehil wrote:

Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I
can't find any info
on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point
me in the right
direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a
G.I. in the
1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh


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genehil




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Old October 11th 05, 05:31 PM
Alan Irving
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Looks like the Grob Egret:

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/G850.HTM

At 16:12 11 October 2005, Genehil wrote:

Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I
can't find any info
on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point
me in the right
direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a
G.I. in the
1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh


--
genehil



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Old October 11th 05, 06:01 PM
genehil genehil is offline
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Mystery Solved by Frank McVey.

It's a Grob Egrett High Altitude Research Vehicle...

Picture he http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/showthrea...75/page/0/vc/1

Quote:
Originally Posted by genehil
Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I can't find any info on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point me in the right direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a G.I. in the 1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh
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Old October 11th 05, 07:20 PM
Don Johnstone
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Al is right U2 with the underwing pods/tanks fitted

http://www.r-s-c-c.org/rscc/v1m1images/u2history.html


At 16:36 11 October 2005, Alan Irving wrote:
Looks like the Grob Egret:

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/G850.HTM

At 16:12 11 October 2005, Genehil wrote:

Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I
can't find any info
on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point
me in the right
direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a
G.I. in the
1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh


--
genehil







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Old October 11th 05, 07:45 PM
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Alan is right. It is not a U2. The U2 would have a much longer nose.
Also the tapering of the wing planform is clearly not that of a U2.

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Old October 11th 05, 07:46 PM
Wayne Paul
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Put my vote in the Grob Egret column. I base this on the position of the
canopy, shape of horizontal stabilizer, the aspect ratio of the wing and the
location of the wing pods (too close to the fuselage to be an U-2 variant.)

By the way, watching a U-2 land on a carrier is a site I will never forget.

Wayne
HP-14 N990 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Don Johnstone" wrote in
message ...
Al is right U2 with the underwing pods/tanks fitted

http://www.r-s-c-c.org/rscc/v1m1images/u2history.html


At 16:36 11 October 2005, Alan Irving wrote:
Looks like the Grob Egret:

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/G850.HTM

At 16:12 11 October 2005, Genehil wrote:

Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I
can't find any info
on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point
me in the right
direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a
G.I. in the
1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh


--
genehil









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Old October 11th 05, 09:54 PM
Paul Remde
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Hi Wayne,

I'm curious - why was that landing interesting? I would think it would land
much more slowly than most other planes.

Paul Remde

"Wayne Paul" wrote in message
...
Put my vote in the Grob Egret column. I base this on the position of the
canopy, shape of horizontal stabilizer, the aspect ratio of the wing and
the
location of the wing pods (too close to the fuselage to be an U-2
variant.)

By the way, watching a U-2 land on a carrier is a site I will never
forget.

Wayne
HP-14 N990 "6F"
http://www.soaridaho.com/

"Don Johnstone" wrote
in
message ...
Al is right U2 with the underwing pods/tanks fitted

http://www.r-s-c-c.org/rscc/v1m1images/u2history.html


At 16:36 11 October 2005, Alan Irving wrote:
Looks like the Grob Egret:

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/G850.HTM

At 16:12 11 October 2005, Genehil wrote:

Can anyone help me identify the sailplane in this photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

I found it using Google Earth and am stumped... I
can't find any info
on it on the 'Net and am hoping you guys can point
me in the right
direction...

It has an approximate 107ft wingspan and a 45ft fuselage.

I flew gliders in the UK while stationed there as a
G.I. in the
1980's... I sure do miss those days...

Thanks all...

gh


--
genehil











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Old October 11th 05, 10:08 PM
Pete S
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wrote in message
ups.com...
Alan is right. It is not a U2. The U2 would have a much longer nose.
Also the tapering of the wing planform is clearly not that of a U2.

It is a U2 with wing tanks, see http://www.area51zone.com/aircraft/u2.shtml
for the pics.

Peter.


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Old October 11th 05, 10:40 PM
Bob Kuykendall
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Earlier, Pete S wrote:

It is a U2 with wing tanks...


I disagree. I think that the others have nailed it; it's the GROB
Egret.

For comparison:

The Van Nuys photo:

http://www.abtriplec.com/images/misc...tery_plane.jpg

U-2 3-view:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft...s_schem_01.jpg

Photo of GROB Egret:

http://www.spyflight.co.uk/G850.HTM

The reasons I'm pretty sure that it's not a U-2 or TR-1:

* Nose too short

* Aft fuselage too long

* Wing pods too short, too far inboard

* Wing planform has greater aspect ratio

* Absence of large air intakes

 




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