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Old October 20th 05, 04:59 PM
Daniel L. Lieberman
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If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the listener
thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents this
possibility.
Obviously this problem only occurs with a limited number of runway
alignments.

The "Runway Zero Two" for someone speaking at 120 words per minute occupies
1/2 second more than "Runway Two."



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Old October 20th 05, 05:22 PM
Jim Burns
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Default Runway Numbering - Radio Procedure

We've got Rwy 03/21 and 30/12 at STE. I always say Zero Three when using
that runway for exactly the reason you indicate.
Jim

"Daniel L. Lieberman" wrote in message
m...

If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the listener
thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents this
possibility.
Obviously this problem only occurs with a limited number of runway
alignments.

The "Runway Zero Two" for someone speaking at 120 words per minute

occupies
1/2 second more than "Runway Two."





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Old October 20th 05, 05:26 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default Runway Numbering - Radio Procedure


"Daniel L. Lieberman" wrote in message
m...

If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the listener
thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents this
possibility.


Why does announcing "Runway Two Zero" allow the last digit to be cut off
while announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents the last digit from being cut
off?


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Old October 20th 05, 05:31 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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Default Runway Numbering - Radio Procedure


"Jim Burns" wrote in message
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We've got Rwy 03/21 and 30/12 at STE.


No, you've got Rwy 3/21 and 30/12 at STE.


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Old October 20th 05, 07:27 PM
BTIZ
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what is the problem of thinking rwy two or rwy zero-two are they not the
same runway?
BT

"Daniel L. Lieberman" wrote in message
m...

If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the listener
thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents this
possibility.
Obviously this problem only occurs with a limited number of runway
alignments.

The "Runway Zero Two" for someone speaking at 120 words per minute
occupies 1/2 second more than "Runway Two."




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Old October 20th 05, 07:34 PM
Lakeview Bill
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No, because there are no runways named "zero-two" in the US...



"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:VjR5f.13018$MN6.12287@fed1read04...
what is the problem of thinking rwy two or rwy zero-two are they not the
same runway?
BT

"Daniel L. Lieberman" wrote in message
m...

If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the listener
thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents this
possibility.
Obviously this problem only occurs with a limited number of runway
alignments.

The "Runway Zero Two" for someone speaking at 120 words per minute
occupies 1/2 second more than "Runway Two."






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Old October 20th 05, 09:55 PM
John T
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Daniel L. Lieberman wrote:

If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the
listener thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents
this possibility.


....but it introduces the possibility of the listener hearing "runway zero".
How is that any better?

It's best to use the numbers painted on the runway.

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Old October 20th 05, 11:37 PM
Mike W.
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Default Runway Numbering - Radio Procedure

If you hear 'runway zero', then you know you have missed something in the
transmission.

"John T" wrote in message
m...
Daniel L. Lieberman wrote:

If one announces "Runway Two Zero" but the "Zero" is cutoff the
listener thinks "Runway Two". Announcing "Runway "Zero Two" prevents
this possibility.


...but it introduces the possibility of the listener hearing "runway

zero".
How is that any better?

It's best to use the numbers painted on the runway.

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Old October 20th 05, 11:40 PM
BTIZ
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It's best to use the numbers painted on the runway.

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John T


Roger,... landing on runway 2 over L
or wooould that be.. runway 2 divided by L?

For everyone else.. That would be Runway Two Left
I hate it when people call "on the downwind for two" or "two zero", and
don't specify Left or Right downwind or Left or Right Runway
BT


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Old October 21st 05, 02:51 AM
John T
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"Mike W." wrote in message


If you hear 'runway zero', then you know you have missed something in
the transmission.


Similarly, if you're in the pattern for runway 20 and you hear somebody
announce "[your airport] traffic, N123 base, runway 2[garbled]", you can
assume you've missed something. You still haven't made a case for using
anything but the numbers painted on the runway.

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