Which GPS w/laptop moving map?

Hello!

The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?

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I have a bluetooth Holux 230, using it with ChartCase. Ebay for about $80.
Works well and battery life is more than 6 hours. 2 x 3 hour flights. It may
last longer than that.

That being said, I would buy their other model (don't remember the number) that
uses cell phone batteries because then I could carry a charged spare.

When I bought, I thought an external antenna would be important. I have tried
the Holux with its internal antenna, with an external Garmin antenna mounted on
top of the airplane, and with my Garmin 195 suction cup antenna. No difference
in sensitivity. I mount the Holux to the windshield on a little home-made
suction cup bracket and use the internal antenna.

I saw no reason to pay up for the Garmin name and still do not. I compared this
unit to my Garmin 195 (before I sold it) and saw no difference in terms of
sensitivity.

HTH

On 10/27/2005 11:48 AM, FlyBean wrote the following:
Hello!

The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?

In article ,
FlyBean wrote:
The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?


The Garmin GPS10 is probably the better unit. It has a very fast
acquisition and 10-12 hour battery life.

However, the GPS10 does have magnets in the bottom of the case. With
care, the case can be opened and the magnets removed.



JKG

I checked online, and found the newer Holux GPSlim236, but it said
nothing about cell phone battary. Are you thinking of the OnCourse SiRF
Star III? $110 new!

Mitty wrote:
I have a bluetooth Holux 230, using it with ChartCase. Ebay for about
$80. Works well and battery life is more than 6 hours. 2 x 3 hour
flights. It may last longer than that.

That being said, I would buy their other model (don't remember the
number) that uses cell phone batteries because then I could carry a
charged spare.

When I bought, I thought an external antenna would be important. I have
tried the Holux with its internal antenna, with an external Garmin
antenna mounted on top of the airplane, and with my Garmin 195 suction
cup antenna. No difference in sensitivity. I mount the Holux to the
windshield on a little home-made suction cup bracket and use the
internal antenna.

I saw no reason to pay up for the Garmin name and still do not. I
compared this unit to my Garmin 195 (before I sold it) and saw no
difference in terms of sensitivity.

HTH

On 10/27/2005 11:48 AM, FlyBean wrote the following:

Hello!

The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?

Yes, but SeattleAvionics said there may be compatibility problems with
the Garmin, as Garmin is not using standard NMEA 0183 Data protocol.

Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article ,
FlyBean wrote:

The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?



The Garmin GPS10 is probably the better unit. It has a very fast
acquisition and 10-12 hour battery life.

However, the GPS10 does have magnets in the bottom of the case. With
care, the case can be opened and the magnets removed.



JKG

In article ,
FlyBean wrote:

Yes, but SeattleAvionics said there may be compatibility problems with
the Garmin, as Garmin is not using standard NMEA 0183 Data protocol.


Yes, it does. Garmin does have a proprietary protocol that their Que
software uses, but the unit defaults to NEMA 0183 output.


JKG

236, I think. http://holux.com/ has instructions for battery changing on this
unit. But any of them will probably work and the idea of a spare battery is
more a belts-and-suspenders kind of thing as they all probably come with 12vdc
adapters as well.

On 10/28/2005 1:48 PM, FlyBean wrote the following:
I checked online, and found the newer Holux GPSlim236, but it said
nothing about cell phone battary. Are you thinking of the OnCourse SiRF
Star III? $110 new!

Mitty wrote:

I have a bluetooth Holux 230, using it with ChartCase. Ebay for about
$80. Works well and battery life is more than 6 hours. 2 x 3 hour
flights. It may last longer than that.

That being said, I would buy their other model (don't remember the
number) that uses cell phone batteries because then I could carry a
charged spare.

When I bought, I thought an external antenna would be important. I
have tried the Holux with its internal antenna, with an external
Garmin antenna mounted on top of the airplane, and with my Garmin 195
suction cup antenna. No difference in sensitivity. I mount the Holux
to the windshield on a little home-made suction cup bracket and use
the internal antenna.

I saw no reason to pay up for the Garmin name and still do not. I
compared this unit to my Garmin 195 (before I sold it) and saw no
difference in terms of sensitivity.

HTH

On 10/27/2005 11:48 AM, FlyBean wrote the following:

Hello!

The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?

Yes, many of them do come with a DC adapter, but that is just one more
wire, and with the computer already plugged in (my battery lasts about
30 minutes, now), that will make for a mess. I ended up buying the
new OnCourse with SiRF Star III WAAS enabled. The spare battery was
only $20. THat's not too much for the convenience and peace of mind.

I was flying with a friend who had a full Jepp system, all plugged
in. Shortly after take-off for a full day's trip, we noticed the
battery LED flashing on his computer. The adapter was faulty. Well,
we had to shut down and rely on only batteries when we needed the
system on. Two 12-hour batteries are much better than one DC adapter.

Agreed. Wires are a pain. DC adapters are best as a backup for little items
like this. One 9-12 hour battery and a DC adapter are probably adequate, two
batts would be nice.

On 11/1/2005 10:56 AM, Curtis Dean Smith wrote the following:
Yes, many of them do come with a DC adapter, but that is just one more
wire, and with the computer already plugged in (my battery lasts about
30 minutes, now), that will make for a mess. I ended up buying the
new OnCourse with SiRF Star III WAAS enabled. The spare battery was
only $20. THat's not too much for the convenience and peace of mind.

I was flying with a friend who had a full Jepp system, all plugged
in. Shortly after take-off for a full day's trip, we noticed the
battery LED flashing on his computer. The adapter was faulty. Well,
we had to shut down and rely on only batteries when we needed the
system on. Two 12-hour batteries are much better than one DC adapter.

I used the GPS10 with Voyager during the beta test with no problems.

"FlyBean" wrote in message
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Yes, but SeattleAvionics said there may be compatibility problems with the
Garmin, as Garmin is not using standard NMEA 0183 Data protocol.

Jonathan Goodish wrote:
In article ,
FlyBean wrote:

The new version 3.0 of Seattle Avionics's Voyager just came out, and
it has a nice moving map. I want to start using it on my laptop, but
need to buy a GPS, first. SA recommends the Pharos GPS360, but I
always thought the Garmin GPS 10 may be the better option. Does
anyone have experience with any of these?



The Garmin GPS10 is probably the better unit. It has a very fast
acquisition and 10-12 hour battery life.

However, the GPS10 does have magnets in the bottom of the case. With
care, the case can be opened and the magnets removed.



JKG