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I'd like to see posted various generalized, and glider-non-specific
pre-lauch checklists with the letters followed by explanation of what it means. I've heard a couple of variations on familiar ones, and I'd like to get them all down. I also welcome further discussion. Nyal Williams |
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In the "further discussion" category: The desire for a pre-launch
checklist is obvious but I question the value of one that is not glider specific. I had a checklist for my 304CZ that included setting the flap. My third flight in my V2C, the spoilers deployed during takeoff. I had used my 304CZ checklist because I hadn't gotten around to making one for my V2C yet, and in the 304CZ, one cannot put the flap in the -1 position without first locking the airbrakes, so I had no separate checklist item for the latter! And on my Grob-102 checklist I've added "Left hand on spoiler handle after thumbs up." ~ted/2NO |
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Before the launch I do a complete walk around the plane, and include a
Positive Control Check with an experienced pilot. Before hook-up, I use the following: A - Altimeter...Set A - Airbrakes...Down and locked B - Ballast...Checked (as required) B - Belts...Buckled C - Controls...Free C - Cable...Checked C - Canopy...Down and locked D - Direction of the wind E - Emergency procedures |
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The version used in the UK almost universal, it is
one of the few things that most people seem to agree on is C - Controls B - Ballast (includes tail dolly) S - Straps I - Instruments F - Flaps T - Trim C - Canopy B - Brakes E - Eventualities The only contensios issued is where the eventualities should come. Some believe before C- Canopy. Others, including me don't understand why with good airmanship and planning you need it at all, it should be done as part of the flight planning and self brief. A case of legislating for those who cannot remember to do the simplest and most essential things like checking which way the wind is blowing or where they are going to land. It is remembered by the nuemonic See bee sift see bee (eee) At 22:42 24 January 2006, Chipsoars wrote: wrote: Before the launch I do a complete walk around the plane, and include a Positive Control Check with an experienced pilot. Before hook-up, I use the following: A - Altimeter...Set A - Airbrakes...Down and locked B - Ballast...Checked (as required) B - Belts...Buckled C - Controls...Free C - Cable...Checked C - Canopy...Down and locked D - Direction of the wind E - Emergency procedures I have added tail dolly after an embarrasing incident. Thankfully did not go far down the runway before realizing things did not look or feel right and popped the cable, but................. Chip F |
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Don Johnstone wrote:
The version used in the UK almost universal, it is one of the few things that most people seem to agree on is C - Controls B - Ballast (includes tail dolly) S - Straps I - Instruments F - Flaps T - Trim C - Canopy B - Brakes E - Eventualities I use a similar one (lots of instructors in my club from the UK I guess) C - Controls B - Ballast (includes tail dolly) S - Straps I - Instruments F - Flaps T - Trim C - Canopy B - Brakes With this added: R - Radio contact with towplane T - Traffic anybody on downwind, entering pattern? Gotta trust the wing runner for base, short final. W - Wind Yeah you knew what it was doing when you pushed out-useless information once you're ready to roll. P - Plan Rope break, wind shift, deer on the runway, idiot from one of the other operations pushing out in front of you etc. Yes I know it sounds like a lot, but for me, RTWP adds very little to the complexity of the list but much to its utility. I don't buy the "airmanship" argument about minimal checklists being all that's required (for most pilots). Too many "good airman" have screwed up on these sorts of basic skills, with expensive consequences. Shawn |
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Don Johnstone wrote:
The version used in the UK almost universal, it is one of the few things that most people seem to agree on is C - Controls B - Ballast (includes tail dolly) S - Straps I - Instruments F - Flaps T - Trim C - Canopy B - Brakes E - Eventualities Personally, I find the final E to be in the right place, especially for winch launch. It means the last thing I push onto my brain stack is the direction to turn after a high winch launch failure. This means that if I have a launch failure its "nose down -- got approach speed -- look ahead -- (too high for land ahead)-TURN" and, because the turn direction was the last thing into my memory, its the first thing that pops out again and turning the correct way is a no-brainer. -- martin@ | Martin Gregorie gregorie. | org | Zappa fan & glider pilot |
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Lots of U.S. pilots seem to use variants of ABCDE. Mine is:
A - Altimeter B - Belts - both seats C - Controls - includes flaps and airbrakes C - Canopy - down and locked and tested C - Cable - I don't like the idea of the cable connected before the canopy is locked C - Clock - not a safety thing, but I kept forgetting to note my takeoff time, so I added it D - Direction of the wind E - Emergency procedures F - Focus - concentrate on wings level, straight down the runway, expect wake turbulence where the towplane started (Ballast needs to be checked before I climb in, not when I'm next in line.) Roger |
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Martin Gregorie wrote:
Don Johnstone wrote: The version used in the UK almost universal, it is one of the few things that most people seem to agree on is C - Controls B - Ballast (includes tail dolly) S - Straps I - Instruments F - Flaps T - Trim C - Canopy B - Brakes E - Eventualities Personally, I find the final E to be in the right place, especially for winch launch. It means the last thing I push onto my brain stack is the direction to turn after a high winch launch failure. This means that if I have a launch failure its "nose down -- got approach speed -- look ahead -- (too high for land ahead)-TURN" and, because the turn direction was the last thing into my memory, its the first thing that pops out again and turning the correct way is a no-brainer. We also teach the "E" with the accent on the pilot having done the self briefing, and/or had one from an instructor. The eventualities item is just a reminder that life is what happens while we are planning other things. On a winch launch it pays , as Martin points out to know what your plan is. It appears that the mind works this way. Referring to the eventualities plan as the last thing before initiating the launch, means it is top of mind when/if something goes wrong. So - the eventualities item is not a substitute for thought, but it does help to trigger the correct information from current short term memory in the event of things falling apart. I personally have to have a couple of very different "Eventualities" plans in my head. Consider the differences. We have a field with a short section of reasonable grass, cut short and level at each end. In the middle is over 1000m of much longer grass that the wildlife continuously works on returning to it's natural lumpy state. To the west there is a near parallel 1470m long tar runway varying from 150m to 300m, closer on the downhill side than on the uphill side. Oh, I almost forgot, the 60" tree between the runways at the uphill end. Depending on whether I am flying a 27:1 high wing, skid equipped two seater built like a brick outhouse, or my Std Cirrus with its low wings and 36:1 performance, a cable break at say 200 feet will have very different actions. Which will also vary depending on which direction the wind is from, etc. You don't want to be mentally flipping through permutations when the cable breaks at an awkward height. I use the "E" to remind me, of the decisions I have made about launching this specific airplane, on this runway with the current weather. -- Bruce Greeff Std Cirrus #57 I'm no-T at the address above. |
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