Another Perfect Gear-Up

Happened at my local airport. Listened to the whole thing online and the
archives are available at LiveATC.net (Jan 28th, KFRG, around 9AM).
Apparently a hydraulic failure. You need to be a Cablevision customer for
the news site so hopefully this direct link will work for everyone.

http://ondemand1.cv.net/news12/GLIEMELT.asx

Marco



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"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
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Happened at my local airport. Listened to the whole thing online and the
archives are available at LiveATC.net (Jan 28th, KFRG, around 9AM).
Apparently a hydraulic failure. You need to be a Cablevision customer for
the news site so hopefully this direct link will work for everyone.

http://ondemand1.cv.net/news12/GLIEMELT.asx
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It looked to me, like he got the engine stopped, just before touchdown,
also.
--
Jim in NC

Gear up landings are no big deal for a typical GA plane. When I worked
in operations at a regional airport I was a trained ARFF responder and
none of the wheels-up landings I ever responded to involved any fire.
We'd just roll out the trucks into position and wait for the plane to
land and skid to a stop. But it still sucks for that guy with the 210 -
I guess the gear hand pump was inop? Engine teardown, new prop, belly
skins.. ouch.. Not to mention the loss of the airplane for X months for
repair. Truly a bad day, but could have been worse.

land and skid to a stop. But it still sucks for that guy with the 210 -
I guess the gear hand pump was inop?

If the hydraulic fluid has been lost, the gear hand pump does you no
good....
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Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ (C210M)

So if there is a system failure in the airplane (like this example), is it
the pilots responsibility for paying the repairs? Or is it the FBO who
should have been maintaining the aircraft?

This is a serious question, because I really dont know that answer and Im
curious.

--
John Huthmaker
PPL-SEL P-28-161

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"John Clonts" wrote in message
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land and skid to a stop. But it still sucks for that guy with the 210 -
I guess the gear hand pump was inop?

If the hydraulic fluid has been lost, the gear hand pump does you no
good....
--
Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ (C210M)

"John Huthmaker" wrote in message
nk.net...
So if there is a system failure in the airplane (like this example), is it
the pilots responsibility for paying the repairs? Or is it the FBO who
should have been maintaining the aircraft?

This is a serious question, because I really dont know that answer and Im
curious.

The plane is owned by a doctor and I believed leased back to an operator. I
believe the insurance of the owner pays as long as the pilot is qualified
under the policy. In this case, I think it was the son of the FBO owner
flying. If the insurance $ is not enough to cover all the expenses, then I
think the owner can sue the pilot for the rest. Given the obvious equipment
malfunction however, that wouldn't make much sense

Marco



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But it still sucks for that guy with the 210 -
I guess the gear hand pump was inop? Engine teardown, new prop, belly
skins.. ouch.. Not to mention the loss of the airplane for X months for
repair. Truly a bad day, but could have been worse.

I'm not convinced that he is going to need a new prop and engine teardown.
It sure looked like he stopped the prop before touchdown.
--
Jim in NC

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Gear up landings are no big deal for a typical GA plane.
...

In a Navion, you wreck the prop and grind the ends off the inboard flap
hinges.
No damage to the skin - assuming a reasonable paved surface.
(The nose wheel hangs down a couple inches even when retracted.)

--
Geoff
the sea hawk at wow way d0t com
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Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe wrote:
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Gear up landings are no big deal for a typical GA plane.
...

In a Navion, you wreck the prop and grind the ends off the inboard flap
hinges.
No damage to the skin - assuming a reasonable paved surface.
(The nose wheel hangs down a couple inches even when retracted.)

You break the step off. Mine has a weld in the middle of it from
some previous owner's escapade. You also loose your antennas.

There were pictures from the "belly landing contest" at one of
the fly-ins, get a few guys to lift up a wing, prop some straw
bales under it, drop the gear, and you can roll it away.

Not sure why he ran away from the plane so fast. If it were my plane
I'd be right there, making sure an overzealous firefighter didn't do
anything stupid, like spray it with a high pressure hose.

-Robert