Tower to tower

This is my first post to this rec.aviation.piloting so forgive me if this
has been discussed before.

A friend of mine who is IFR rated said there used to be a term called tower
to tower to allow for an IFR clearance from one towered airport to another.
This type of clearance wasn't as complicated as a full blown clearance. He
thought that the name had been changed or that it was now called something
else. I googled some but could not find any reference and not being IFR
myself have no clue.

Any comments are appreciated.

("keepitrunning" wrote)
A friend of mine who is IFR rated said there used to be a term called
tower to tower to allow for an IFR clearance from one towered airport to
another. This type of clearance wasn't as complicated as a full blown
clearance. He thought that the name had been changed or that it was now
called something else. I googled some but could not find any reference
and not being IFR myself have no clue.


Not IFR but how about ...Special VFR Clearance?

When normal VFR flight wouldn't be advised, a tower can give you Special VFR
Clearance to get over to another field, next door. That's how it was
explained to me.

Is this what you're thinking about?


Montblack

According to the Pilot/Controller Glossary,

TOWER EN ROUTE CONTROL SERVICE - The control of IFR en route traffic within
delegated airspace between two or more adjacent approach control facilities.
This service is designed to expedite traffic and reduce control and pilot
communication requirements.

TOWER TO TOWER-
(See TOWER EN ROUTE CONTROL SERVICE.)


"keepitrunning" wrote in message
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This is my first post to this rec.aviation.piloting so forgive me if this
has been discussed before.

A friend of mine who is IFR rated said there used to be a term called
tower to tower to allow for an IFR clearance from one towered airport to
another. This type of clearance wasn't as complicated as a full blown
clearance. He thought that the name had been changed or that it was now
called something else. I googled some but could not find any reference
and not being IFR myself have no clue.

Any comments are appreciated.

I think you might be thinking of "tower enroute", which essentially kept
the airplanes out of center airspace.

IIRC TEC routings (tower enroute clearance) are canned IFR routes
between departure & destination airports you get which have specific
altitude limits (which makes sense given Jose's center airspace
rationale). A controller pal of mine explained this once to me that
it's intended to expedite traffic flow. Around here (Connecticut) TEC
routings only go up to 7k, after that... I have no idea as I don't go
higher than that - yet.

We still have it. Its a prearranged agreement between local airports
how they will route IFR traffic. The cool part for a pilot is you don't
need to prefile an IFR flight plan. When you call ground you just ask
for a "tower enroute" to your destination. Works great for local IFR
trips.

-Robert

Does anyone know if this is avaliable in the Phoenix area?

--Dan

"keepitrunning" wrote in message
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This is my first post to this rec.aviation.piloting so forgive me if this
has been discussed before.

A friend of mine who is IFR rated said there used to be a term called
tower to tower to allow for an IFR clearance from one towered airport to
another. This type of clearance wasn't as complicated as a full blown
clearance. He thought that the name had been changed or that it was now
called something else. I googled some but could not find any reference
and not being IFR myself have no clue.

Any comments are appreciated.

You're probably thinking about Tower Enroute Control. It's not worth the
ink devoted to it in the AIM, if it's still in there. There was no
difference in the clearance, all it meant was the flight stayed in approach
control airspace. Big deal.

"Dan" wrote in message
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Does anyone know if this is avaliable in the Phoenix area?

I didn't think that Phoenix ever had IFR conditions... grin

"Dan" wrote in message

Does anyone know if this is avaliable in the Phoenix area?

Good question, but let's take it one further. How does one find out about
such arrangements, anywhere-other than knowing the local tower?
--
Jim in NC

Hehe... Phoenix Approach has a damn heart attack when a cloud is within
fifty miles of the class Bravo airspace..... Doubt PHX will ever have TEC,
no real need for it, and all of the airports can be reached VFR easilly
enough via the "valley hop", and i hear the new airspace configuration that
goes online when the new TRACON opens includes a new transition from DVT
down towards FFZ or IWA, after they lower a shelf effectively blocking off
an easy way to "duck under here, and zigzag around that pond over there"
enroute from SDL to FFZ. I do know it is available in the LA basin, and up
in the NE, If i remember correctly the AFD has outlines of areas served by
TEC and preffered routings within the TEC system.





"Dan" wrote in message
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Does anyone know if this is avaliable in the Phoenix area?

--Dan