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control locks were still locked when the aircraft took off ( Video-Footage )



 
 
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Old April 3rd 06, 12:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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An excellent reminder that there really are good reasons to do a
thorough preflight and to make sure the controls are free. This
happened just north of Winnipeg, and the aircraft was the first version
with PT-6-67 Turboprops. The Canadian DOT concluded that the control
locks were still locked when the aircraft took off.
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/turboprops.html

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Old April 4th 06, 09:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Hansi" wrote in message
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An excellent reminder that there really are good reasons to do a
thorough preflight and to make sure the controls are free. This
happened just north of Winnipeg, and the aircraft was the first version
with PT-6-67 Turboprops. The Canadian DOT concluded that the control
locks were still locked when the aircraft took off.
http://www.jumpingpixels.com/turboprops.html


Even without preflighting how do you miss the fact that the controls don't
move?

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DW


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Old April 4th 06, 09:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Darkwing heducksmailTyahoo.com wrote:

Even without preflighting how do you miss the fact that the controls don't
move?


You don't move them until liftoff.

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Old April 5th 06, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:25:24 -0400, Peter R. wrote:

You don't move them until liftoff.


At least in the planes I fly, checking for proper control motion is a
checklist item during the run-up. Removing the control lock is one of the
first preflight items. So there are at least two opportunities to catch
this.

If there's a nontrivial wind, then correction for wind during taxi
provides a third opportunity.

- Andrew

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Old April 5th 06, 02:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Andrew Gideon wrote:

If there's a nontrivial wind, then correction for wind during taxi
provides a third opportunity.


During the preflight walk-around, I also manually move the ailerons and
elevators (ruddervators in the V35) to both get a good view of the
connecting bolts and to confirm movement, which is ultimately confirming
the removal of the gust lock.


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Old April 5th 06, 04:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default control locks were still locked when the aircraft took off( Video-Footage )

And what airplane has a gust lock that allows the plane to take off?



Peter R. wrote:

Andrew Gideon wrote:


If there's a nontrivial wind, then correction for wind during taxi
provides a third opportunity.



During the preflight walk-around, I also manually move the ailerons and
elevators (ruddervators in the V35) to both get a good view of the
connecting bolts and to confirm movement, which is ultimately confirming
the removal of the gust lock.


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Old April 5th 06, 08:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter R." wrote in message ne
Andrew Gideon wrote:

If there's a nontrivial wind, then correction for wind during taxi
provides a third opportunity.


During the preflight walk-around, I also manually move the ailerons and
elevators (ruddervators in the V35) to both get a good view of the
connecting bolts and to confirm movement, which is ultimately confirming
the removal of the gust lock.


The prompting cautionary tale I was told relating to that part of a small
plane walkaround was the demise of Aristotle Onassis Jr. I never heard the
name of the guy who grabbed the control column when his faulty seat slid
back on takeoff. Fame is a significant memory-jog. As is death.

moo


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Old April 5th 06, 12:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Newps" wrote:

And what airplane has a gust lock that allows the plane to take off?


http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...12X20988&key=1


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Old April 5th 06, 12:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Newps wrote:

And what airplane has a gust lock that allows the plane to take off?


The aircraft in the video that prompted this thread?

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Old April 5th 06, 02:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote:

And what airplane has a gust lock that allows the plane to take off?


http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...12X20988&key=1


It is funny that they through into the report that he had a heart attack
right before the crash, probably not to mention an extreme and violent bowel
movement!

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DW


 




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