Jeez, this is so intense?

One of my colleague's daughters is training for CPL in India. I don't
for the earth know why she mailed me of all persons to try and get
answers to the following Qs. But heck, this seems to be like a chapter
off a meteorology post-grad!! Since this is obviously just a snip of
what she must be studying overall, flying seems very, very
study-intensive... reminds me of my engineering days

If anyone of you can find the time and/or inclination to help with the
Qs themselves, I acknowledge thanks gratefully. Ignore Q12 of course


1.In westward moving depression the area of heavier ppt is generally

a.SE
b.SW
c.NE
d.NW sector of Depression

2. If static air temp is -15^C&indicated altitude is 1000feet then true
altitude will be

a.10400ft
b.10600ft
c.9400ft
d.9600ft

3.Presence of hard pellets on surface is evidence of

a.thunderstorm in area
b.has been a cold frontal passage
c.temp inversion with freezing rain at higher altitude

4.due to friction wind very close to ground

a.only increases in magnitude with height
b.Decreases in magnitude with height
c.backs with height
d.veers with height

5.what is the process of adding unsat air to moisture?

6. If lightening flash is seen &thunder is not heard

a.cloud is not fully developed
b.CB is dissipating
c.thunder didnt occur at that time of lightening
d.CB is very distant

7. An aircraft must have anti collision lights fitted when

a.carrying passengers
b.flying IFR
c.Whn flying IMC
d.With AUW more than 5700 kg

8. An a/c is flying at FL290& oat -30 c.the temp condition is ...

9. In convective clouds severe icing may be encountered at temp...

10. A turn coordinator provides an indication of...

11. When an a/c climbs at constant TAS,RAS shd be
a.Increased
b.maintained
c.decreased

12.parts of country affected by norwesters is

a.bengal& bihar in pre monsoon
b. NW india in winter
c. South india in summer
d. NE india in winter

13.TMG is 045,G/S 135,Co(C)045,dev 2W,var 8W,TAS 140kt,wind vel is

a.13025
b.140/22
c.320/24


Ramapriya

wrote:
One of my colleague's daughters is training for CPL in India. I don't
for the earth know why she mailed me of all persons to try and get
answers to the following Qs. But heck, this seems to be like a chapter
off a meteorology post-grad!! Since this is obviously just a snip of
what she must be studying overall, flying seems very, very
study-intensive... reminds me of my engineering days


Those questions sound a lot like the ones I studied for my ATP written
exam. The weather stuff at that level can get quite in-depth.

wrote in message
oups.com...
[...]
If anyone of you can find the time and/or inclination to help with the
Qs themselves, I acknowledge thanks gratefully. Ignore Q12 of course

What a bizarre collection of questions. And poorly worded too. Surely this
isn't a literal transcription from the actual written exam?

And yes, there's a lot to learn before one is granted a pilot certificate.

1.In westward moving depression the area of heavier ppt is generally

a.SE
b.SW
c.NE
d.NW sector of Depression

Worst weather is usually SE of a low, sometimes SW. Of course, bad weather
can theoretically be anywhere.

2. If static air temp is -15^C&indicated altitude is 1000feet then true
altitude will be

a.10400ft
b.10600ft
c.9400ft
d.9600ft

If indicated altitude is really 1000 feet, then none of the answers are
correct. I'll assume it really should be 10,000 feet. With that
assumption, the altitude would be off by 373 feet too low. So 10,400 feet
would be the best answer.

3.Presence of hard pellets on surface is evidence of

a.thunderstorm in area
b.has been a cold frontal passage
c.temp inversion with freezing rain at higher altitude

a) and b) are not mutually exclusive. "Hard pellets" is ambiguous and could
refer to a consequence of c), or just be very small hail (a possible
consequence of a)).

That said, from a test-taking perspective, the most likely answer they are
looking for is c), because a) and b) are not mutually exclusive.

4.due to friction wind very close to ground

a.only increases in magnitude with height
b.Decreases in magnitude with height
c.backs with height
d.veers with height

"Backs"? "Veers"? What are those words supposed to mean in this context?

I would say a), because surface friction does slow the wind down.

5.what is the process of adding unsat air to moisture?

Huh? You've got a big parcel of moisture and you're adding unsat(urated)
air to it? I'm having trouble parsing the question.

6. If lightening flash is seen &thunder is not heard

a.cloud is not fully developed
b.CB is dissipating
c.thunder didnt occur at that time of lightening
d.CB is very distant

Any 12 year old should know that the answer is d). Lightning always heats
the air, and always creates *some* kind of thunder as a consequence. If you
can't hear the thunder, it's just too far away.

7. An aircraft must have anti collision lights fitted when

a.carrying passengers
b.flying IFR
c.Whn flying IMC
d.With AUW more than 5700 kg

This question is specific to India. In the US, the correct answer is
whenever the aircraft is in motion, unless using the anti-collision lights
would reduce safety.

8. An a/c is flying at FL290& oat -30 c.the temp condition is ...

"Temp condition"? Never heard of it.

9. In convective clouds severe icing may be encountered at temp...

Care to finish that question?

10. A turn coordinator provides an indication of...

Bank angle and roll rate.

11. When an a/c climbs at constant TAS,RAS shd be
a.Increased
b.maintained
c.decreased

"RAS"?

12.parts of country affected by norwesters is

a.bengal& bihar in pre monsoon
b. NW india in winter
c. South india in summer
d. NE india in winter

Like you guessed...I have no idea.

13.TMG is 045,G/S 135,Co(C)045,dev 2W,var 8W,TAS 140kt,wind vel is

a.13025
b.140/22
c.320/24

Some guesses:
"TMG" -- track made good? (course)
"G/S" -- groundspeed?
"Co(C)" -- I have no idea
"dev" -- magnetic deviation?
"var" -- magnetic variation?
"TAS" -- true airspeed?

Without knowing what "Co(C)" is, and without knowing whether the "TMG" and
wind direction are magnetic or true, I can't really answer this question.
The magnetic/true issue is particularly silly...they obviously (apparently?)
want you to consider the difference, because they have provided what appear
to be correction figures for magnetic vs true. So presumably some of the
course information is in magnetic and some is in true, but without knowing
which is which, there's no way to know what's the proper way to apply the
correction figures.

IMHO, including the correction figures is just dumb. They don't have
anything to do with the basic calculations required to calculate wind
correction angles (forward or reverse) and should have been left out for
simplicity. Test compass correction in a different question, if that's an
important thing to test.

All that said, I at least think it's safe to rule out c), with groundspeed
being lower than true airspeed. b) actually *seems* to be a slight
tailwind, ignoring the required wind correction angle, (depending on the
magnetic/true issue), and so it seems unlikely that even after the wind
correction angle is applied, you'd lose a whole 5 knots. So personally, I'd
say answer a) looks the most likely.

But since there are gaping ambiguities in the question, it's hard to say
exactly what the right answer is.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
[...]
If anyone of you can find the time and/or inclination to help with the
Qs themselves, I acknowledge thanks gratefully. Ignore Q12 of course

What a bizarre collection of questions. And poorly worded too. Surely this
isn't a literal transcription from the actual written exam?


Hey Pete, I was kinda rofl too when my colleague's mail arrived. He
said he'd done a copy-paste of his dau's mail. Boy, I thought the very
thing about veers and all that but thought there must be something
there that I didn't know of.

I really hope that isn't the standard of education dished out in my
country. But to be fair, I did my engineering there as well, and not
once was it anywhere near as risible as it appears here.

You're in the US too, Pete?

Ramapriya

Peter Duniho wrote:

8. An a/c is flying at FL290& oat -30 c.the temp condition is ...

"Temp condition"? Never heard of it.

It's a fill-the-blank type of Q, Pete. Temp = temperature, a common
Indian abbrev )


9. In convective clouds severe icing may be encountered at temp...

Care to finish that question?

Same as above. It's a fill-the-blank.


10. A turn coordinator provides an indication of...

Bank angle and roll rate.

11. When an a/c climbs at constant TAS,RAS shd be
a.Increased
b.maintained
c.decreased

"RAS"?

I suspect it's IAS. I've not heard of RAS either

I've seen similar questions when administering written exams to pilots from
Australia and the UK. Tests in the US are pretty superficial when it comes
to weather.

Bob Gardner

wrote in message
oups.com...
One of my colleague's daughters is training for CPL in India. I don't
for the earth know why she mailed me of all persons to try and get
answers to the following Qs. But heck, this seems to be like a chapter
off a meteorology post-grad!! Since this is obviously just a snip of
what she must be studying overall, flying seems very, very
study-intensive... reminds me of my engineering days

If anyone of you can find the time and/or inclination to help with the
Qs themselves, I acknowledge thanks gratefully. Ignore Q12 of course


1.In westward moving depression the area of heavier ppt is generally

a.SE
b.SW
c.NE
d.NW sector of Depression

2. If static air temp is -15^C&indicated altitude is 1000feet then true
altitude will be

a.10400ft
b.10600ft
c.9400ft
d.9600ft

3.Presence of hard pellets on surface is evidence of

a.thunderstorm in area
b.has been a cold frontal passage
c.temp inversion with freezing rain at higher altitude

4.due to friction wind very close to ground

a.only increases in magnitude with height
b.Decreases in magnitude with height
c.backs with height
d.veers with height

5.what is the process of adding unsat air to moisture?

6. If lightening flash is seen &thunder is not heard

a.cloud is not fully developed
b.CB is dissipating
c.thunder didnt occur at that time of lightening
d.CB is very distant

7. An aircraft must have anti collision lights fitted when

a.carrying passengers
b.flying IFR
c.Whn flying IMC
d.With AUW more than 5700 kg

8. An a/c is flying at FL290& oat -30 c.the temp condition is ...

9. In convective clouds severe icing may be encountered at temp...

10. A turn coordinator provides an indication of...

11. When an a/c climbs at constant TAS,RAS shd be
a.Increased
b.maintained
c.decreased

12.parts of country affected by norwesters is

a.bengal& bihar in pre monsoon
b. NW india in winter
c. South india in summer
d. NE india in winter

13.TMG is 045,G/S 135,Co(C)045,dev 2W,var 8W,TAS 140kt,wind vel is

a.13025
b.140/22
c.320/24


Ramapriya

When answering, remember that India is in the southern hemisphere.

Regardless, Veer is a windshift to starboard,, Head is a shift to
port. Nautical terms.

Don

wrote in message
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I really hope that isn't the standard of education dished out in my
country.

It couldn't possibly be. I know too many well-educated people from India to
think that it is.

Though, now that I consider it, I suppose that only the people who become
well-educated *in spite of* the existing standard of education are likely to
emigrate to the US to be met by me.

You're in the US too, Pete?

Yup.

wrote in message
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8. An a/c is flying at FL290& oat -30 c.the temp condition is ...

"Temp condition"? Never heard of it.

It's a fill-the-blank type of Q, Pete. Temp = temperature, a common
Indian abbrev )

I understand the concept of "fill-in-the-blank". And believe it or not, we
do abbreviate "temperature" as "temp" too, now and then. The problem is
that the term "temp condition" is not one that's meaningful to me (and
likely not to most other US pilots, if any).

9. In convective clouds severe icing may be encountered at temp...

Care to finish that question?

Same as above. It's a fill-the-blank.

Again, it's apparent that it's "fill-in-the-blank". What's not apparent is
what the blank might be. Are they asking for an actual temperature? Do
they want the word "condition"? Who knows?

Anyway, as a stab at answering it: in convection, you can get icing with
nearly any outside air temperature, since freezing moisture may be carried
up or down within the cloud into an altitude of non-freezing temperature.
At some point, it just gets too warm, and the airframe is too warm for any
ice to stick anyway, but I would not be comfortable stating any one single
temperature above which you are guaranteed safe from icing (well, okay...I
suppose 40C would be a pretty good guarantee...but that's probably not where
the "official" cut-off is).

11. When an a/c climbs at constant TAS,RAS shd be
a.Increased
b.maintained
c.decreased

"RAS"?

I suspect it's IAS. I've not heard of RAS either

If one assumes it's IAS, then constant TAS requires decreasing IAS as one
climbs. If "RAS" means something else, all bets are off.

Pete

"Don Tuite" wrote in message
...
When answering, remember that India is in the southern hemisphere.

Regardless, Veer is a windshift to starboard,, Head is a shift to
port. Nautical terms.

Ah. I was worried it might be like the "hook" and "slice" from golf, where
they are just using arbitrary words to mean "left" and "right".

Still, what would "back" be?