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From: RST Engineering - view profile
Date: Sun, Jul 30 2006 10:37 pm Email: "RST Engineering" Groups: rec.aviation.homebuilt, rec.aviation.piloting Not yet rated Rating: show options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author I'm prejudiced. Of course I'm prejudiced. In 5000+ flight hours, I've never come as close to a midair as I did at Oshkosh 1999. Oshkosh Tower: "BlueOnBlue Cessna, number three for runway 27. Ercoupe put it on the numbers. Flight of three T6s, cross over runway 27, right downwind for runway 27, caution the Cessna at the gravel pit." (Warbird flight leader) "OK fellers, let's show them what a warbird arrival is like." The Cessna is looking, looking, and turns downwind. The copilot screams, "Oh, my God " and the pilot turns hard left, only to see two wings perhaps fifty feet below. Tower tells warbirds that they nearly had a midair with a Cessna. Warbird flight leader, "Then tell tell the little b@$+@rd to get out of our way." Of course he has no tape of this. I guarantee someone would if it happened. I've about had it with the arrogant warbird *******s. The only reason that there are warbirds at Oshkosh is that Pope Paul flew a warbird and wanted to invite his cronies. Pope Paul is out to pasture. Nobody else at Oshkosh gets gas money except the warbirds. Guess where the gas money is coming from? Your inflated entry ticket prices. You are paying for those stupid idiots to aggrandize World War II, which damned few of us can relate to. So this afternoon, one of the WWII warbird people who has more money than good sense, and who never learned how to clear the taxiway in front of his aircraft, killed one of our own. There has to be some sort of payback for this sort of stupidity. Warbirds, you are not welcome at Oshkosh. No it's you, Jim Weir, and your failed repeatedly halfass electronics company selling halfass crap like Heil and MFJ do to the hams, to aviation, which is not welcome. Warbirds ARE aviation, you dork. Homebuilding is yuppies having RVs and Falcos built with expensive paint jobs and piece of **** Lycomings (wait, that's redundant....) by hired gun A&Ps. Just like fat appliance operator hams they are not advancing the tech, just taking up space. I hope the next Administration appoints a FAA Administrator DEDICATED to kicking Richard van Grunsven's and especially that esculent c*cks*ck*r Alfred Scott's asses all over town. Lycoming loving homos. You, Jim Weir, are a goofy halfass. Go hang out with Bob Heil and John Simonton and Don Lancaster and all the other halfass electronic geeks and leave the class to warbirders. You low rent halfass. And you have the ass to c**tmouth IFR service monitors....use a Ramsey, assmunch. |
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![]() "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message oups.com... snip You low rent halfass. And you have the ass to c**tmouth IFR service monitors....use a Ramsey, assmunch. Pitiful rant. Surely you can do better. On the other hand, probably not... |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
Of course he has no tape of this. I guarantee someone would if it happened. I guess you are to stupid to understand how the tapes system works and how long the tapes are kept. No it's you, Jim Weir, and your failed repeatedly halfass electronics company selling halfass crap like Heil and MFJ do to the hams, to aviation, which is not welcome. Warbirds ARE aviation, you dork. Homebuilding is yuppies having RVs and Falcos built with expensive paint jobs and piece of **** Lycomings (wait, that's redundant....) by hired gun A&Ps. Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Thankfully Van has provided a means for many people that love aviation and airplanes to build and own said aircraft. Just like fat appliance operator hams they are not advancing the tech, just taking up space. I hope the next Administration appoints a FAA Administrator DEDICATED to kicking Richard van Grunsven's and especially that esculent c*cks*ck*r Alfred Scott's asses all over town. Lycoming loving homos. What a piece of work you are Ludgag. You, Jim Weir, are a goofy halfass. Go hang out with Bob Heil and John Simonton and Don Lancaster and all the other halfass electronic geeks and leave the class to warbirders. You low rent halfass. And you have the ass to c**tmouth IFR service monitors....use a Ramsey, assmunch. Old Bret has always had a hair up his butt about Van because Van is successful with the most popular homebuilt aircraft in the world and Fu**wig is a ignorant loser. |
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![]() Jerry Springer wrote: snip Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Thankfully Van has provided a means for many people that love aviation and airplanes to build and own said aircraft. Bull****, anyone who sinks 50 to 100K in a Van's has too much goddamn money and knows it. Very few Van's owners do things the most economical way, usually they spend more than they could buy a Skylane for and have enough for maintenance. I suppose all those plans built homebuilts sold before Van's came along and made you buy the kit were no good as a means for "people that love aviation and aircraft" to own one, nor all those airplanes built by the manufacturers. A Cessna 150 was the price of a Corvette for decades and still should be, if not less. You, Jim Weir, are a goofy halfass. Go hang out with Bob Heil and John Simonton and Don Lancaster and all the other halfass electronic geeks and leave the class to warbirders. You low rent halfass. And you have the ass to c**tmouth IFR service monitors....use a Ramsey, assmunch. Old Bret has always had a hair up his butt about Van because Van is successful with the most popular homebuilt aircraft in the world and Fu**wig is a ignorant loser. It's popular because of the yuppies. |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
Jerry Springer wrote: snip Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Thankfully Van has provided a means for many people that love aviation and airplanes to build and own said aircraft. Bull****, anyone who sinks 50 to 100K in a Van's has too much goddamn money and knows it. Very few Van's owners do things the most economical way, usually they spend more than they could buy a Skylane for and have enough for maintenance. I suppose all those plans built homebuilts sold before Van's came along and made you buy the kit were no good as a means for "people that love aviation and aircraft" to own one, nor all those airplanes built by the manufacturers. A Cessna 150 was the price of a Corvette for decades and still should be, if not less. You, Jim Weir, are a goofy halfass. Go hang out with Bob Heil and John Simonton and Don Lancaster and all the other halfass electronic geeks and leave the class to warbirders. You low rent halfass. And you have the ass to c**tmouth IFR service monitors....use a Ramsey, assmunch. Old Bret has always had a hair up his butt about Van because Van is successful with the most popular homebuilt aircraft in the world and Fu**wig is a ignorant loser. It's popular because of the yuppies. As I said you don't have a clue what you are talking about and it showa once again. YOU DUDWIG = stupid |
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Bret Ludwig wrote:
.... ........., anyone who sinks 50 to 100K in a Van's has too much ...... money and knows it. Very few Van's owners do things the most economical way, usually they spend more than they could buy a Skylane for and have enough for maintenance. ... Nonsense.... RV's and a lot of other homebuilts have far better performance and fuel economy for the "50 to 100K". I can afford a homebuilt because of the fuel economy and maintaining it myself for far less than a certified. Just finished a 2300 mile round trip to west coast. It took about 14 leasurly hobbs hours including 8 stops, using 118 gals of Avgas. Try that in a Skylane. The main losers are the many who start a homebuilt project and never finish it, having to sell their unfinished work for half price. --------------------------------------------------------------- Four seater SQ2000 canard http://www.abri.com/sq2000 |
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Bull****. That sounds like a pretty broad generalization. I'm only
putting in the six pack of instruments and a handheld radio and GPS in my RV-4. Hardly $100K. Scott Bret Ludwig wrote: Bull****, anyone who sinks 50 to 100K in a Van's has too much goddamn money and knows it. Very few Van's owners do things the most economical way, usually they spend more than they could buy a Skylane for and have enough for maintenance. |
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![]() Jerry springer wrote: Old Bret has always had a hair up his butt about Van because Van is successful with the most popular homebuilt aircraft in the world and Fu**wig is a ignorant loser. It's popular because of the yuppies. As I said you don't have a clue what you are talking about and it showa once again. YOU DUDWIG = stupid Your ass sucks buttermilk. There are THREE RVs under construction that I know of at the closest airport to my house. All 3 are mainly being built by hired guns. One owner is a car dealer the other two are doctors. The hired guns are working for cash off the books. One is a helo mechanic for the county and the other two are laid off TWA guys who are sheetmetal wizards. The local FBO has a policy he will fire anyone working on airplanes outside of his shop but he can't say so in print. He starts grads of the local A&P mill (a ********) at $10 an hour and won't hire ex airline people even if they would work for his ****ty wages. |
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![]() Jerry Springer wrote: Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. |
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("Bret Ludwig" wrote)
Once again you show the world how amazingly stupid you are Butwig. 99% of RV's are built by average guys that are by no means rich Yuppies myself included. Where do you get your statistics, you assmunch? If hired guns all went away Van's would lose half or more their business overnight and RVG admitted as much a few years ago. I'm changing Jerry Springer's reply, a little, to this: "99% of RV's are built [FOR] average guys..." g I ran into the reality of "hired builders" at OSH this year. Out of (10) serious inquiries I bumped into, (7) were related to building mills, (2) were 'I'm going to build it' and (1) was ????? ...goofy. [We] were/are selling an RV-10 QB kit, with many items already completed + no shipping charges. Crates were shipped NEW less than a year ago. We think it's SOLD - you never know. Team get-in-the-air is coming to pick it up this morning - I hope. More details when I know more... I hope it was one of "my" people who bought it! Maybe it's the golf cart ride folks? :-) Montblack |
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