PA-28-140 Cherokee advice

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

http://www.piperowner.com/

The fuel selector in the PA28 can develop leaks into the
cockpit, look for any fuel stains or smell of gas [near your
left knee.
Get a copy of all the AD and SB notes for the airplane.

Have fun.



"drclive" wrote in message
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|I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee.
Any of you
| with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints
and tips
| about this airplane? Thanks in advance.
|

Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

Why?

Don't spin it.

Why?

When I did my spin training for my CFI certificate in 1973 we did it in a
140. It doesn't want to spin, but once it does it does so normally and
predictably.

Rod

http://www.piperowner.com/

I will "second" Dan's recommendation. The Cherokee Pilots Assocation
is a class act, with a terrific annual fly-in convention, and an
outstanding chat room called (not surprisingly) "Cherokee Chat" --
which you can only access with membership.

Membership also includes a subscription to their monthly magazine. I
highly recommend it.

Also, with regards to the 140, a few things:

1. Don't try to carry 4 adults, unless the back seaters are double
amputees.
2. Don't expect it to be a great performer. It's adequate in cool
weather, sluggish in hot weather, very forgiving, and can be landed on
a dime with practice.
3. Landing at night with that single GE 4509 shining out front is a
drag. Taxiing at a dark, unfamiliar airport is REALLY a drag.
4. The original stock panel lighting is, um, marginal, especially in
the early models.
5. It should have the auto-gas STC, which allows you to use regular
unleaded car gas in that Lycoming O-320. Use it -- you'll save over
$50 per tank-full, and the engine will thank you for not clogging it
with lead.

If it doesn't have the STC -- get it. (Unless you're trapped in one of
the states that have recently mandated the use of ethanol in all
gasoline -- in which case you're out of luck.)

The 140 is a great first plane -- a 2 adults + 2 kids plane with good
range and better-than-150/152 performance, at a great price. Fly it
everywhere, and enjoy that nice, 7 gph fuel burn!
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
"drclive" writes:

I recently acquired a share in a Piper PA-28-140 Cherokee. Any of you
with a lot of hours an experience could give me some hints and tips
about this airplane? Thanks in advance.

Don't spin it.

I spin mine on a regular basis. With proper technique and attention
to W&B, it's not much different than spinning a 152 or 172.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

In article .com,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Having owned my 140 since 1994, I need to add some comments/responses to Jay's...

1. Don't try to carry 4 adults, unless the back seaters are double
amputees.

agree - sort of. Not a lot of room back there. And watch out for
the relatively low useful load, especially if the airplane has air
conditioning.

2. Don't expect it to be a great performer. It's adequate in cool
weather, sluggish in hot weather, very forgiving, and can be landed on
a dime with practice.

agree (but performs noticably better with 160hp engine and cruise prop)

3. Landing at night with that single GE 4509 shining out front is a
drag. Taxiing at a dark, unfamiliar airport is REALLY a drag.

huh? Landing at night with the single 4509 is just fine. And taxing
at night isn't hard at all.


4. The original stock panel lighting is, um, marginal, especially in
the early models.

Panel lights for the 140 didn't exist until late 1974. But the overhead
red light is ok - especially when combined with something like nulite
instrument lights.


5. It should have the auto-gas STC, which allows you to use regular
unleaded car gas in that Lycoming O-320. Use it -- you'll save over
$50 per tank-full, and the engine will thank you for not clogging it
with lead.

Note that my 140 didn't like 100LL, but a friend's 140 drank the 100LL
with nary a problem. In other words, not all 140's will have problems with
100LL.


Additional comments:

If the 140 is nose-heavy, you can run out of stabilator on landing.

Don't use the lapbelt-thru-the-bowtie-yokes to secure the controls.
The bowtie yokes are plastic and can develop cracks. And it can't
be a good thing for the universals.

I would flightplan for 105 KTAS when my 140 had the 150hp engine.

Stalls are benign.

The 140's hersheybar wings are lighter in roll than other cherokees (tapered
wings or the longer wings on the 180).

Starting the airplane is easy - once you get the hang of "bumping" the starter.

Enjoy the airplane.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

read ACE 97-02 on the FAA Web page..

BT



Don't spin it.

Why?