Almost got My Ticket Yesterday

First of all I have not posted/asked any questions of RAP and RAS since last
November. With all of the bickering, baiting, and other issues, I decided
not to participate. Please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I am not
pointing fingers or complaining about anyone in particular since several
members of this group have been involved in degrading the groups. These are
just my opinions. So much for that.....

I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not successful
in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a landing and soft
field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to practice and complete the
requirements for the slip and soft field landing this week, thereby
acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was not maintaining the
centerline during the actual slip. I will not make any excuses (the wind,
nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done, it was on me to be
successful.

Although I did not get the ticket, I still feel good about the overall
outcome. It's interesting in that I felt my weakest area would be the oral
but this went well. I did have a couple of slips (no pun intended) during
the oral but quickly regrouped and gave the correct response. The oral
lasted about 2.5 hours. After reviewing my flight plan, weight and balance,
etc. we (the DPE and myself) took to the air. I had to do quite a number of
things such as slow flight, steep turns, power on and power off stalls.
Finally it was time for the dreaded diversion! I was actually pleased with
myself with the outcome. The diversion was somewhat better than I had
anticipated, especially since I did not land but did a go around. Once we
returned to airport, we discussed the overall checkride. Of course, this
also included the "well you didn't do too good on the slip and the soft
field landing" conversation. But still, I was pleased with what I had
accomplished. Now I am really looking forward to finishing this week,
weather and DPE availability permitting.!!!!

BTW, the xc flight plan was from 3A1 (Cullman AL) to 7A0 (Greensboro AL) and
finally KMGM (Montgomery Dannelly Field).

Now, I will resume lurking.

--
CareBear

CareBear... you are well on your way.. a session with the instructor and
you'll be good to go.
We look forward to hearing of the completed ride.

BT

"CareBear" wrote in message
...
First of all I have not posted/asked any questions of RAP and RAS since
last November. With all of the bickering, baiting, and other issues, I
decided not to participate. Please don't misinterpret what I am saying.
I am not pointing fingers or complaining about anyone in particular since
several members of this group have been involved in degrading the groups.
These are just my opinions. So much for that.....

I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not
successful in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a
landing and soft field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to
practice and complete the requirements for the slip and soft field landing
this week, thereby acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was
not maintaining the centerline during the actual slip. I will not make
any excuses (the wind, nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done,
it was on me to be successful.

Although I did not get the ticket, I still feel good about the overall
outcome. It's interesting in that I felt my weakest area would be the
oral but this went well. I did have a couple of slips (no pun intended)
during the oral but quickly regrouped and gave the correct response. The
oral lasted about 2.5 hours. After reviewing my flight plan, weight and
balance, etc. we (the DPE and myself) took to the air. I had to do quite
a number of things such as slow flight, steep turns, power on and power
off stalls. Finally it was time for the dreaded diversion! I was actually
pleased with myself with the outcome. The diversion was somewhat better
than I had anticipated, especially since I did not land but did a go
around. Once we returned to airport, we discussed the overall checkride.
Of course, this also included the "well you didn't do too good on the slip
and the soft field landing" conversation. But still, I was pleased with
what I had accomplished. Now I am really looking forward to finishing
this week, weather and DPE availability permitting.!!!!

BTW, the xc flight plan was from 3A1 (Cullman AL) to 7A0 (Greensboro AL)
and finally KMGM (Montgomery Dannelly Field).

Now, I will resume lurking.

--
CareBear

Congratulations on your achievement Care Bear, but you didn't have to stay
away from the group because of the "noise".
There are always a whole bevy of experienced aviation type folks around here
to wade into any questions you might have had along the way.
Don't let the actions of a few deter you from frequenting the newsgroup.
With Usenet you always get the bad with the good . The secret is to just
ignore the bad and enjoy the good :-))
Dudley Henriques

"CareBear" wrote in message
...
First of all I have not posted/asked any questions of RAP and RAS since
last November. With all of the bickering, baiting, and other issues, I
decided not to participate. Please don't misinterpret what I am saying.
I am not pointing fingers or complaining about anyone in particular since
several members of this group have been involved in degrading the groups.
These are just my opinions. So much for that.....

I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not
successful in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a
landing and soft field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to
practice and complete the requirements for the slip and soft field landing
this week, thereby acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was
not maintaining the centerline during the actual slip. I will not make
any excuses (the wind, nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done,
it was on me to be successful.

Although I did not get the ticket, I still feel good about the overall
outcome. It's interesting in that I felt my weakest area would be the
oral but this went well. I did have a couple of slips (no pun intended)
during the oral but quickly regrouped and gave the correct response. The
oral lasted about 2.5 hours. After reviewing my flight plan, weight and
balance, etc. we (the DPE and myself) took to the air. I had to do quite
a number of things such as slow flight, steep turns, power on and power
off stalls. Finally it was time for the dreaded diversion! I was actually
pleased with myself with the outcome. The diversion was somewhat better
than I had anticipated, especially since I did not land but did a go
around. Once we returned to airport, we discussed the overall checkride.
Of course, this also included the "well you didn't do too good on the slip
and the soft field landing" conversation. But still, I was pleased with
what I had accomplished. Now I am really looking forward to finishing
this week, weather and DPE availability permitting.!!!!

BTW, the xc flight plan was from 3A1 (Cullman AL) to 7A0 (Greensboro AL)
and finally KMGM (Montgomery Dannelly Field).

Now, I will resume lurking.

--
CareBear

First, Congratulations on your accomplishments so far.
I'm sure that with a bit of work you'll do well next time.

On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:22:09 -0500, "CareBear"
wrote:

First of all I have not posted/asked any questions of RAP and RAS since last
November. With all of the bickering, baiting, and other issues, I decided
not to participate. Please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I am not
pointing fingers or complaining about anyone in particular since several
members of this group have been involved in degrading the groups. These are
just my opinions. So much for that.....

You've lurked long enough to probably have a good idea as to who can
be believed about what. You just have to sort through the chaf at
times.


I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not successful
in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a landing and soft
field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to practice and complete the
requirements for the slip and soft field landing this week, thereby
acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was not maintaining the
centerline during the actual slip. I will not make any excuses (the wind,
nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done, it was on me to be
successful.

Being able to accept what went wrong is a good point in itself. Few
are able to do that.

Hang in there,

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

CareBear congrats on nailing all but a couple of rather minor
things! Getting 'dinged' on one or two things on a check ride
is not at all uncommon (I've had 5 check rides and its happened
to me on two of them) Despite all your hard work and effort it
only takes a tiny loss of concentration and a bit of nervousness
to blow a manuever ... and some PE's are more forgiving than others!

Practice a couple more slips and soft-field landings and you'll
be good to go! thanks for the post.

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Congratulations on your achievement Care Bear, but you didn't have to stay
away from the group because of the "noise".
There are always a whole bevy of experienced aviation type folks around here
to wade into any questions you might have had along the way.
Don't let the actions of a few deter you from frequenting the newsgroup.
With Usenet you always get the bad with the good . The secret is to just
ignore the bad and enjoy the good :-))

And that applies to a lot more than aviation.

Matt

CareBear wrote:
First of all I have not posted/asked any questions of RAP and RAS since last
November. With all of the bickering, baiting, and other issues, I decided
not to participate. Please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I am not
pointing fingers or complaining about anyone in particular since several
members of this group have been involved in degrading the groups. These are
just my opinions. So much for that.....

I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not successful
in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a landing and soft
field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to practice and complete the
requirements for the slip and soft field landing this week, thereby
acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was not maintaining the
centerline during the actual slip. I will not make any excuses (the wind,
nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done, it was on me to be
successful.

Although I did not get the ticket, I still feel good about the overall
outcome. It's interesting in that I felt my weakest area would be the oral
but this went well. I did have a couple of slips (no pun intended) during
the oral but quickly regrouped and gave the correct response. The oral
lasted about 2.5 hours. After reviewing my flight plan, weight and balance,
etc. we (the DPE and myself) took to the air. I had to do quite a number of
things such as slow flight, steep turns, power on and power off stalls.
Finally it was time for the dreaded diversion! I was actually pleased with
myself with the outcome. The diversion was somewhat better than I had
anticipated, especially since I did not land but did a go around. Once we
returned to airport, we discussed the overall checkride. Of course, this
also included the "well you didn't do too good on the slip and the soft
field landing" conversation. But still, I was pleased with what I had
accomplished. Now I am really looking forward to finishing this week,
weather and DPE availability permitting.!!!!

BTW, the xc flight plan was from 3A1 (Cullman AL) to 7A0 (Greensboro AL) and
finally KMGM (Montgomery Dannelly Field).

Now, I will resume lurking.


95% congratulations!! :-)

The slip is tough to master, it is a confidence thing. Putting the plane
into that flying profile can be daunting and a bit scary. I remember it
took me awhile but I finally got the hang of it when I had my instructor
teach a whole lesson of flying in a slip. We flew up and down route 2
in massachusetts (using the road as a centerline) for 2 hours doing
slips, climbing, slipping etc.

The big thing for me was learning to use the rudder, really use the
rudder. I still still screw it up on x-wind landings. It is almost like
you can't use enough rudder. You think you have enough, add more.

Good job on the other parts of the exam. Like most things, the anxiety
of the imagined scenario are worse than the reality of the scenario.
You'll get it for sure! Good luck.

KC

On Apr 2, 11:22 pm, "CareBear" wrote:
First of all I have not posted/asked any questions of RAP and RAS since last
November. With all of the bickering, baiting, and other issues, I decided
not to participate. Please don't misinterpret what I am saying. I am not
pointing fingers or complaining about anyone in particular since several
members of this group have been involved in degrading the groups. These are
just my opinions. So much for that.....

I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not successful
in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a landing and soft
field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to practice and complete the
requirements for the slip and soft field landing this week, thereby
acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was not maintaining the
centerline during the actual slip. I will not make any excuses (the wind,
nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done, it was on me to be
successful.

Although I did not get the ticket, I still feel good about the overall
outcome. It's interesting in that I felt my weakest area would be the oral
but this went well. I did have a couple of slips (no pun intended) during
the oral but quickly regrouped and gave the correct response. The oral
lasted about 2.5 hours. After reviewing my flight plan, weight and balance,
etc. we (the DPE and myself) took to the air. I had to do quite a number of
things such as slow flight, steep turns, power on and power off stalls.
Finally it was time for the dreaded diversion! I was actually pleased with
myself with the outcome. The diversion was somewhat better than I had
anticipated, especially since I did not land but did a go around. Once we
returned to airport, we discussed the overall checkride. Of course, this
also included the "well you didn't do too good on the slip and the soft
field landing" conversation. But still, I was pleased with what I had
accomplished. Now I am really looking forward to finishing this week,
weather and DPE availability permitting.!!!!

BTW, the xc flight plan was from 3A1 (Cullman AL) to 7A0 (Greensboro AL) and
finally KMGM (Montgomery Dannelly Field).

Now, I will resume lurking.

--
CareBear

You've got the right attitude about the your checkride!! Alot of
people (including me!) come away from a failed checkride depressed and
dejected. After all those hours, I felt like %#$@ that I couldn't
make it thru. But after I picked myself up by my belt loops and got
back in the plane, it was a piece of cake the next time. And it will
be for you also.

As others have noted, slips are one of the toughest manuevers to
master. You're on final and your eyes are moving up and down at warp
speed between the gauges to make sure you've got the right airspeed,
and the outside to watch the centerline. Putting the plane in that
"unnatural" configuration and keeping it there only makes it worse.
And if the wind is shifting or gusting, you then have to adjust the
amount of slip to compensate. All together, its a pretty tough flying
environment.

A few more landings with your instructor, and you'll have that little
piece of paper in your hand! And then it will get to the point that
you actually WISH for a windy/gusty day to get out there and practice
those crosswind landings in challenging conditions! Good luck!

--Jeff

On Apr 2, 8:22 pm, "CareBear" wrote:

I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not successful
in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a landing and soft
field landing.

Ah. A little more instruction and you'll have those down pat. Anyone
can screw up an item or two on a check ride. More than that, though,
and you begin to wonder about the instructor.

Congratulations on the rest. You'll have your ticket soon and a well
deserved sense of accomplishment.

On Apr 2, 10:22 pm, "CareBear" wrote:
...snip
I had my checkride yesterday and it went rather well. I was not successful
in getting my ticket since I busted the forward slip to a landing and soft
field landing. Everything else was ok. I plan to practice and complete the
requirements for the slip and soft field landing this week, thereby
acquiring my ticket. My main problem with the slip was not maintaining the
centerline during the actual slip. I will not make any excuses (the wind,
nervousness, etc.). When it's all said and done, it was on me to be
successful.

snip...

Now, I will resume lurking.

--
CareBear

You have my sympathy. I know how it feels to bust a check ride, as I
had to take my multi add-on a second time (busted the off field NDB
approach). No matter how good you feel about the rest of the check
ride, I suspect that deep down it still hurts somewhat to have
"busted." However, as others have said, you are in good company
because many outstanding pilots have busted at one time or another.
Also, as others have stated, the leniency of the DPE's are variable. I
remember on my private exam I bounced the soft-field landing and the
DPE asked me which bounce I wanted to use for the landing. She didn't
bust me on that, although she easily could have done so.

Doing the forward slip is very much like a x-wind landing. You may
want to go to an airport that is not too busy and practice the slip
procedure as you approach a runway with a moderate x-wind. You don't
have to land if the x-wind is too great, but just try to keep the
plane going down the centerline using the aileron to correct for the
wind and the opposite rudder to keep the nose straight down the
runway.

Good luck on your re-take.

Cary