HUD view of a near-miss

Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY

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Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

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DW

Darkwing wrote:
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Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

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DW

I think it's scary cuz the pilot(NICE HUD, btw) didn't know he was
there....didn't look that close. Maybe 100 feet....

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Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

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DW

I think it's scary cuz the pilot(NICE HUD, btw) didn't know he was
there....didn't look that close. Maybe 100 feet....

The circle in the middle of the HUD calculates where you will end up at
current speed, pitch etc. On final the circle was just below the runway
but the pilot knew it would rise slightly during the flare. There
probably wasn't much doubt. Compare that to a C-172 where you are only
somewhat sure where the plane will end up.

-Robert

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:11:15 -0500, "Darkwing"
theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:


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Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

It can get closer.
Many years back as a student I was landing a Piper Colt on 36. A
Comanche was flying the express way East to West. The end of 18/36 is
about as close to the road as it can get. That would put me at 300
feet or less at that point. There is an over pass about a city block
to my left (West).
The Comanche not only went under us and had to pull up a bit for the
over pass, he put the top of his vertical stab less than a foot below
us. I had this flash and the impression of looking at rivets.
He was past us before either the instructor or I jumped and we have
fast reaction times. The speeds may have been way less, but the mess
would have been just about as bad.


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DW

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:08:07 -0500, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:11:15 -0500, "Darkwing"

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Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

Back in the '80s, the Navy aviation safety magazine APPROACH had an article
about a Tempo Pinto trainer on final that struck a Cessna 150. The nosegear of
the jet basically ran over the wing root of the 150. Both planes landed safely.
the Cessna had a huge dent in the wing, the Pinto had a scuff on the nosewheel
tire. In other words, this was an actual collision between two metal airplanes
without aluminum scraps flying....

Ron Wanttaja

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:08:07 -0500, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:11:15 -0500, "Darkwing"

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Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

Back in the '80s, the Navy aviation safety magazine APPROACH had an
article
about a Tempo Pinto trainer on final that struck a Cessna 150. The
nosegear of
the jet basically ran over the wing root of the 150. Both planes landed
safely.
the Cessna had a huge dent in the wing, the Pinto had a scuff on the
nosewheel
tire. In other words, this was an actual collision between two metal
airplanes
without aluminum scraps flying....

Ron Wanttaja

I've had a couple close calls in my day. They suck.

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DW

"Ron Wanttaja" wrote in message
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On Thu, 14 Dec 2006 03:08:07 -0500, Roger wrote:

On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 18:11:15 -0500, "Darkwing"

wrote in message
et...
Here's a very close call as recorded through the HUD camera of a
T-38C.
Scott Wilson
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=qLVtstYAZLY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLVtstYAZLY


That was about as close as it gets without aluminum scraps flying.

Back in the '80s, the Navy aviation safety magazine APPROACH had an
article
about a Tempo Pinto trainer on final that struck a Cessna 150. The
nosegear of
the jet basically ran over the wing root of the 150. Both planes landed
safely.
the Cessna had a huge dent in the wing, the Pinto had a scuff on the
nosewheel
tire. In other words, this was an actual collision between two metal
airplanes
without aluminum scraps flying....

Ron Wanttaja

I have read somewhere that most midair collisions are "fender benders" and
that the aircraft land safely and go on to fly again. We mostly hear of the
most spectacular accidents--just as we do with cars and trucks.

Peter

Peter Dohm wrote:



I have read somewhere that most midair collisions are "fender benders" and
that the aircraft land safely and go on to fly again. We mostly hear of the
most spectacular accidents--just as we do with cars and trucks.

When I was at GFK, home of UND, I was working the day one Piper Cadets
prop sawed the stabilator of another in mid air. There were about 25 or
so slices, approax 3 inches long the full length of the stab. Neither
pilot reported a collision and both dummied up after landing and talking
to their parents/lawyers. It wasn't until the next set of students came
out to preflight their planes that the tail damage was discovered. They
then realized it was a midair because of how close together the slices
were. A little more investigation found the other aircraft on the ramp
with the paint from the stab on its prop.

"Peter Dohm" wrote in message
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I have read somewhere that most midair collisions are "fender benders" and
that the aircraft land safely and go on to fly again. We mostly hear of
the
most spectacular accidents--just as we do with cars and trucks.

Peter



That jibes with what one of the guys from the Scottsdale FSDO FAAST team
told me:

For every one accident/incident that gets a lot of pub or "ping" the FAAs
"safety radar," there are approx 600 that don't.

Jay B