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The sky was pure blue for most of the morning, with not a breath of
wind, or a wisp of cloud to speak of. My flight was booked for 3pm, but I called earlier, and was told I could fly at 2:30 if I wanted. I arrived in time, and after general chit chat about how perfect the weather was for flying, I was handed the keys and told to go fly. By this stage, there was some scattered white cloud around, but it was all well above 5000ft. As I was exiting the office, I was told that another student would also be heading out to the same area that I was, and it was to be his first area solo. This was my second time solo in the training area. I was given a brief rundown on what he had been told to do, and we were both told to watch out for each other, as "no-one survives a mid air collission!". Confidence instilled, I headed out to my trusty Gazelle. The young Asian student followed, and we both began our pre-flight inspections. The Gazelle, was closest to the runway i use, which today was 25, and I was ready to fire her up first, as he had to wait for the instructor for some reason. I suspect they decided to do one dual circuit with him, to give us more separation in the training area, as I head him call a full-stop instead of following me after I was leaving the circuit. I made my calls, and taxiied to the run-up area, and did those. The Gazelle had been in the air all day. I had heard it on the scanner all morning, and afternoon. It took no time at all to reach running temps and I was free to fly. I took off, and remembering my blunder a few weeks ago when I departed to the right against normal circuit direction a little early, I instead began a normal circuit, until I reached 1500ft, then broke away and headed towards the training area. Along the way, I made a point to have a bit of a look down, and see if I could find a few spots I knew from the ground. I found my old house, and the new shops etc, and allowed myself to relax and just enjoy the flight. There was no cloud anywhere near me, as it was all a few thousand above me. I pushed the throttle, and climbed to a new maximum height for me. The big 4000! Never been that high before, and I have to say, things really start to look small from up that high! I was heading back over to where I live to do a few steep turns over the house. I dropped down to about 2500 to do them, and was able to see the wife, kids and Mother in Law all standing out in the street, 'checking out Dad!' Several steep 360 degree turns later, I headed back down the coast, for my trip back to do a few circuits. Along the way, I thought I'd better practice something else, not quite as fun as steep turns, so I pulled the carb heat, and the throttle, and raised the nose for a few practice stalls. She slowed nicely, and got sloppy, then the stall horn scremed at me. I pushed the nose down slightly, and watched the airspeed climb to around 55kts, then slowly reintroduced the throttle, and levelled her out. Nicely done. Did another with similar results. I forgot to take note of how much altitude I lost, but I'm certain it was not much, and within requirements. I headed back to the airfield for 3 or 4 circuits. There were a few small scrub fires around today, so I was able to really see what the wind was doing. The short answer was 'not much at all', but it still suggested runway 35. Here is where my one and only stuff up for the day happened, mind you, I beg for lenience, as I was also experiencing a slight in flight drama at the same time. I overflew the airfield at the required 1500ft, to check the wind sock, and enter the circuit. As I made my call, the radio sounded like it was screaming, and I could not hear my own voice like I normally can. I tried several times, and was rewarded with a call from another a/c, saying "Station calling! Too much feedback in your last transmission! Please repeat!" Fan-bloody-tastic! I was flying over the airfield at 1500, and unable to tell anyone I was there! I quickly took off the headset, and grabbed the passenger headset, and put that on. Then I retransmitted using the push to talk button on the right control stick. (The Gazelle has a control stick in front of the pilot and the passenger, rather than a yoke). So, I'm flying the plane with my left hand, and having to take my right hand off the throttle, to operate the right hand side push to talk button! This saw me turn slightly to the left, and, trying to figure out if I had radio or not , I got overwhelmed for a brief second, and began my decent to 1000ft to join the circuit, on the live side of the airfield, about half way down the downwind leg! What I should have done is stay at 1500, make a high circuit to the dead side, and then get down to 1000ft, and join on the crosswind. I realised it as soon as I levelled out at 1000ft on the downwind. Still unsure as to whether I was being heard, I repeated the cak-handed operation of the right side PTT button and called the airport for a radio check. Report came back as loud and clear. The problem must have been the pilot side PTT button, or his headset. (I'm betting on the PTT button.) Anyway, I did not want to end my days flying just because of a PTT button problem, that I had worked a way around, so I decided I would continue as planned, and do a few touch and go's. All in all, I did 4 touch and go's, before a full stop. All but the last landing were absolute greasers, with the last throwing me a very slight yaw to the left just a few metres above the ground. Here's the weird part. Once I landed, and did the shut down check list etc, I noticed that the wind had swung around, which explained the slight crosswind behaviour on the last landing, but the wind was coming from the East, and the a/c yawed to the West as I landed. I would have thought that a breeze from the right would point the nose to the right as it hits the tail plane. Anyhoo, it was not a stiff breeze by any stretch of the imagination. I'd guess at barely 8 - 10kts. Perhaps the wind was a bit all over the place as it had only just changed direction and was still straight down runway 35 on the previous take off. I was instructed to put the a/c back in the hangar as I taxiied off the active, and was met there by my instructor. I infThe sky was pure blue for most of the morning, with not a breath of wind, or a wisp of cloud to speak of. My flight was booked for 3pm, but I called earlier, and was told I could fly at 2:30 if I wanted. I arrived in time, and after general chit chat about how perfect the weather was for flying, I was handed the keys and told to go fly. By this stage, there was some scattered white cloud around, but it was all well above 5000ft. As I was exiting the office, I was told that another student would also be heading out to the same area that I was, and it was to be his first area solo. This was my second time solo in the training area. I was given a brief rundown on what he had been told to do, and we were both told to watch out for each other, as "no-one survives a mid air collission!". Confidence instilled, I headed out to my trusty Gazelle. The young Asian student followed, and we both began our pre-flight inspections. The Gazelle, was closest to the runway i use, which today was 25, and I was ready to fire her up first, as he had to wait for the instructor for some reason. I suspect they decided to do one dual circuit with him, to give us more separation in the training area, as I head him call a full-stop instead of following me after I was leaving the circuit. I made my calls, and taxiied to the run-up area, and did those. The Gazelle had been in the air all day. I had heard it on the scanner all morning, and afternoon. It took no time at all to reach running temps and I was free to fly. I took off, and remembering my blunder a few weeks ago when I departed to the right against normal circuit direction a little early, I instead began a normal circuit, until I reached 1500ft, then broke away and headed towards the training area. Along the way, I made a point to have a bit of a look down, and see if I could find a few spots I knew from the ground. I found my old house, and the new shops etc, and allowed myself to relax and just enjoy the flight. There was no cloud anywhere near me, as it was all a few thousand above me. I pushed the throttle, and climbed to a new maximum height for me. The big 4000! Never been that high before, and I have to say, things really start to look small from up that high! I was heading back over to where I live to do a few steep turns over the house. I dropped down to about 2500 to do them, and was able to see the wife, kids and Mother in Law all standing out in the street, 'checking out Dad!' Several steep 360 degree turns later, I headed back down the coast, for my trip back to do a few circuits. Along the way, I thought I'd better practice something else, not quite as fun as steep turns, so I pulled the carb heat, and the throttle, and raised the nose for a few practice stalls. She slowed nicely, and got sloppy, then the stall horn scremed at me. I pushed the nose down slightly, and watched the airspeed climb to around 55kts, then slowly reintroduced the throttle, and levelled her out. Nicely done. Did another with similar results. I forgot to take note of how much altitude I lost, but I'm certain it was not much, and within requirements. I headed back to the airfield for 3 or 4 circuits. There were a few small scrub fires around today, so I was able to really see what the wind was doing. The short answer was 'not much at all', but it still suggested runway 35. Here is where my one and only stuff up for the day happened, mind you, I beg for lenience, as I was also experiencing a slight in flight drama at the same time. I overflew the airfield at the required 1500ft, to check the wind sock, and enter the circuit. As I made my call, the radio sounded like it was screaming, and I could not hear my own voice like I normally can. I tried several times, and was rewarded with a call from another a/c, saying "Station calling! Too much feedback in your last transmission! Please repeat!" Fan-bloody-tastic! I was flying over the airfield at 1500, and unable to tell anyone I was there! I quickly took off the headset, and grabbed the passenger headset, and put that on. Then I retransmitted using the push to talk button on the right control stick. (The Gazelle has a control stick in front of the pilot and the passenger, rather than a yoke). So, I'm flying the plane with my left hand, and having to take my right hand off the throttle, to operate the right hand side push to talk button! This saw me turn slightly to the left, and, trying to figure out if I had radio or not , I got overwhelmed for a brief second, and began my decent to 1000ft to join the circuit, on the live side of the airfield, about half way down the downwind leg! What I should have done is stay at 1500, make a high circuit to the dead side, and then get down to 1000ft, and join on the crosswind. I realised it as soon as I levelled out at 1000ft on the downwind. Still unsure as to whether I was being heard, I repeated the cak-handed operation of the right side PTT button and called the airport for a radio check. Report came back as loud and clear. The problem must have been the pilot side PTT button, or his headset. (I'm betting on the PTT button.) Anyway, I did not want to end my days flying just because of a PTT button problem, that I had worked a way around, so I decided I would continue as planned, and do a few touch and go's. All in all, I did 4 touch and go's, before a full stop. All but the last landing were absolute greasers, with the last throwing me a very slight yaw to the left just a few metres above the ground. Here's the weird part. Once I landed, and did the shut down check list etc, I noticed that the wind had swung around, which explained the slight crosswind behaviour on the last landing, but the wind was coming from the East, and the a/c yawed to the West as I landed. I would have thought that a breeze from the right would point the nose to the right as it hits the tail plane. Anyhoo, it was not a stiff breeze by any stretch of the imagination. I'd guess at barely 8 - 10kts. Perhaps the wind was a bit all over the place as it had only just changed direction and was still straight down runway 35 on the previous take off. I was instructed to put the a/c back in the hangarormed her of what had happened to the radio, and she told me it was good thinking to attempt to work around it like I did. I told her of my wrong circuit entry, and she listened to my answer as to how I should have done it, and she agreed that I was correct with my answer of how it should have been done. Next time, I want to do some more practice forced landings, and a few prec searches. Total time now is 17hrs out of a minimum 20hrs. -- Oz Lander. I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong. |
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("Oz Lander" wrote)
Next time, I want to do some more practice forced landings, and a few prec searches. What's a prec search? Montblack |
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"Montblack" wrote in message
... ("Oz Lander" wrote) Next time, I want to do some more practice forced landings, and a few prec searches. What's a prec search? Montblack Precautionary search. 3 passes over the ground with less altitude with each pass to check suitability for a landing on any surface that is not an official runway. Crash Lander |
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Oz Lander wrote:
Along the way, I thought I'd better practice something else, not quite as fun as steep turns, so I pulled the carb heat, and the throttle, and raised the nose for a few practice stalls. She slowed nicely, and got sloppy, then the stall horn scremed at me. I pushed the nose down slightly, and watched the airspeed climb to around 55kts, then slowly reintroduced the throttle, and levelled her out. Nicely done. Hi Oz We have to actually stall the aircraft in various configs. In all cases I've been taught to check forward positively and then go to full power to get airspeed and pitch back up ASAP. Of course you need to put in rudder at the same time to control a potential wing drop developing. Now I know you did not stall just when the horn went off, but a weak response in a real stall could fail the PPL (I've been told). Is this a microlight difference? Do you do wing drop stalls? Cheers MarkC ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Do your users want the best web-email gateway? Don't let your customers drift off to free webmail services install your own web gateway! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_webmail.htm ---- |
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"DR" wrote in message
... Hi Oz We have to actually stall the aircraft in various configs. In all cases I've been taught to check forward positively and then go to full power to get airspeed and pitch back up ASAP. Of course you need to put in rudder at the same time to control a potential wing drop developing. Now I know you did not stall just when the horn went off, but a weak response in a real stall could fail the PPL (I've been told). Is this a microlight difference? Do you do wing drop stalls? Cheers MarkC Hi Mark. The Gazelle is such docile a/c, that it does not drop a wing when stalling. We are yet to cover advanced stalls, but my instructor said we'd 'try' to get it to drop a wing to do the lesson. Crash Lander |
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On May 14, 7:17 pm, "Crash Lander" wrote:
"DR" wrote in message In all cases I've been taught to check forward positively and then go to full power to get airspeed and pitch back up ASAP. Of course you need to put in rudder at the same time to control a potential wing drop developing. Now I know you did not stall just when the horn went off, but a weak response in a real stall could fail the PPL (I've been told). Is this a microlight difference? Do you do wing drop stalls? Cheers MarkC Hi Mark. The Gazelle is such docile a/c, that it does not drop a wing when stalling. We are yet to cover advanced stalls, but my instructor said we'd 'try' to get it to drop a wing to do the lesson. Crash Lander Hi Oz, I'll _bet_ it will drop a wing fast if you have power on and full left rudder (you probably shouldn't do this as it may be way too violent -just a little left rudder should be enough), but you have to stall -not just take it to the point where the stall warning goes off. But, do you actually stall or only just slow to near Vs -your description did not sound like a full stall? Cheers MarkC |
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The_navigator wrote:
On May 14, 7:17 pm, "Crash Lander" wrote: "DR" wrote in message In all cases I've been taught to check forward positively and then go to full power to get airspeed and pitch back up ASAP. Of course you need to put in rudder at the same time to control a potential wing drop developing. Now I know you did not stall just when the horn went off, but a weak response in a real stall could fail the PPL (I've been told). Is this a microlight difference? Do you do wing drop stalls? Cheers MarkC Hi Mark. The Gazelle is such docile a/c, that it does not drop a wing when stalling. We are yet to cover advanced stalls, but my instructor said we'd 'try' to get it to drop a wing to do the lesson. Crash Lander Hi Oz, I'll bet it will drop a wing fast if you have power on and full left rudder (you probably shouldn't do this as it may be way too violent -just a little left rudder should be enough), but you have to stall -not just take it to the point where the stall warning goes off. But, do you actually stall or only just slow to near Vs -your description did not sound like a full stall? Cheers MarkC Hey Mark! If the fpm shows a loss, that's a stall yes? It started to show below level, at which point I lowered the nose. The horn had been activated for a few seconds already. The Gazelle stalls at about 45kts, and I was definately not doing anymore than that, so I'd say it was an actual stall. Next lesson is supposed to be advanced stalls so I'll get more practice in then. You may be right about it dropping a wing with full power and full rudder. I was originally told it would not do it, but I guess that was with a power off stall. -- Oz Lander. I'm not always right, But I'm never wrong. |
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If the fpm shows a loss, that's a stall yes?
No. Not necessarily. A stall is when the airflow separates from the wing (it generally happens piecemeal). Lift can deteriorate even before that happens. Jose -- Quantum Mechanics is like this: God =does= play dice with the universe, except there's no God, and there's no dice. And maybe there's no universe. for Email, make the obvious change in the address. |
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"Jose" wrote in message
... If the fpm shows a loss, that's a stall yes? No. Not necessarily. A stall is when the airflow separates from the wing (it generally happens piecemeal). Lift can deteriorate even before that happens. Jose OK, thanks. I'll spend a bit extra time on stalls then when they do advanced stalling. Crash Lander |
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Oz Lander wrote:
Hi Oz, I'll bet it will drop a wing fast if you have power on and full left rudder (you probably shouldn't do this as it may be way too violent -just a little left rudder should be enough), but you have to stall -not just take it to the point where the stall warning goes off. But, do you actually stall or only just slow to near Vs -your description did not sound like a full stall? Cheers MarkC Hey Mark! If the fpm shows a loss, that's a stall yes? It started to show below level, at which point I lowered the nose. The horn had been activated for a few seconds already. The Gazelle stalls at about 45kts, and I was definately not doing anymore than that, so I'd say it was an actual stall. Next lesson is supposed to be advanced stalls so I'll get more practice in then. You may be right about it dropping a wing with full power and full rudder. I was originally told it would not do it, but I guess that was with a power off stall. Hi Oz No, a loss in altitude is not necessarily a stall demonstration. You have to try to maintain height by pulling back more and more and the stall will show itself as a sudden nose drop -you may be at full back stick before the drop occurs. This is because the center of lift suddenly moves back as flow separates. In the PPL you are expected to hold altidude accurately until the abrupt nose drop. The actual stall speed depends on loading and the POH figures should be for MTOW. If you are not up to MTOW, the stall will be below Vs (remember bank increases wing loading). Height loss could be as little as 50' if you do it well. For the wing drop 1/2 power and small left rudder should be enough -you don't want it to snap into a spin! The wing drop exercise gives you experience in immediate reactions needed to stop a spin developing. I'd say it is probably the most dramatic manouver I've done so far (recovery from unusual attitudes under IF seemed less dramatic -maybe because I couldn't see the ground!). I hope you've covered the spin break method -PARE (and remember you must pull back rather than forward if you've become inverted :-( ). I'll admit I've not had the confidence to do a full wing drop while flying solo so far -even though my recoveries to all 3 stalls have been quite good (IMHO). It can't be due to the 'confidence prop' in the right seat can it??? By the way, on my checkout for soloing to the training area I managed to drop a wing a bit during an advanced stall. My immediate rudder action killed the problem and I got my first compliment :-) -so training does seem work -even though I'm still finding good rudder coordination elusive... only 10Hrs to go before PPL minimums... Tomorrow is low flying lesson 1 -I'm really looking forward to that one after 5 hours under the hood! Cheers MarkC |
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