Parowan Contest

I flew two days with Karl Streidick in the back of his Duo Discus.
Simply put, it was nothing short of amazing. Funny thing, there was no
magic pixie dust, or voodoo magic, just simple thermal efficiency and
energy management. Oh yeah, he doesn't use a PDA or any of that fancy
software to get himself around the course. It's, get off tow, climb
until start gate is open, start, point nose in direction of first
point and GO!! Thermals were great, even though it was blue skies both
days for us, and we routinely saw 17k while out on course. Truely an
amazing and informative experience. Too bad my experience was marred
by some very rude contest pilots.
I had my family( wife + 3 young kids) join me on this trip so that I
could show my wife that contest flying could be a family event. The
dinner after the practice day my family joined me and then took the
kids away for the pilots meeting. I thought that was very courteous.
The next day, once again the family joined me for the BBQ. As the
eating began to wind down my kids, along with a couple of other kids,
had some energy to burn and were playing around in the hangar. Yes,
they may have been playing a little loud, but nothing ridiculous.
Unfortunately, some individuals decided to yell "keep those kids
quiet!" Whether or not they were joking, I don't care. My wife was so
embarrased she was ****ed at me for days for bringing her and the
kids. People, guys like me and our families are the future of this
sport, if you can't put up with a little youthful banter, SHUT UP and
go somewhere else. Otherwise, take it up with me personally!!!
Justin Rizor
way into the future contest racer--- with the kids, not sure about the
wife :0)

On Jul 8, 12:29 pm, JMR wrote:
if you can't put up with a little youthful banter, SHUT UP and
go somewhere else. Otherwise, take it up with me personally!!!

Are you the parent of the shrieking girl?

Justin,

I am sorry some of the people at the contest have forgotten what it is
like to be a child. All of the kids at Parowan did a great job of
behaving when necessary (pilots meetings, talks, etc.). What more can
we expect while we self-centered hedonistic pilots got to go fly each
day and the families had to sit on the ground in southern Utah in the
summer. Hopefully we can have a little patience when it cools down
and the kids want to play. Please assure your wife many of us were
glad to see so many familes with young children at Parowan. Don't
fight stupidity with anger, just ignore them and you will find the
rest of the the people around the sport are very friendly. I hope to
see your "entire" family a contests in the future.

Tim

My 2.73 y/o was in the mix and my wife was standing nearby. A kid
screaming in a temper tantrum is one thing, but kids having fun are as
innocent as the pilot landing out in Farmer John's field. My wife was
very upset too.

Don't know if it's the straw that broke the camel's back (it didn't
help!!!), but on the way home my crew told me that was her last
contest. (At least until the kids are growed up.) FS: 2005 Seabreeze
LX 32' motorhome, 9500 miles, 8L GM Workhorse, every factory option
but the sat dish, a screaming deal at $91,500. WTB: gently used Honda
Ridgeline. Wanted: hotel roommate for 15M Nats at Uvalde next August.

~ted/2NO

This is too bad. I have helped with many contests, including 2004 at
Parowan. Kids are the future of soaring, and wives\crew are bound to be part
of it. That said, we all have to co-operate and get along. I would urge the
wives that were affected by this to ignore whoever did it, and have much
pride in the fact that the kids were being......KIDS. A glider contest can
be a boring place for kids, unless they are creative and like books and
bikes. My wife has no love of contests, but I don't fly gliders. I tow, run
groundops, and generally do whatever I can to make it all work. She sees no
good reason to come out, and that is her choice. I love contests, all parts
of them, and I especially like meeting and helping out people. All I can say
is, use that nice motorhome and come to Mifflin. We will do all in our power
to make it a worthwhile trip.

Brian Glick
"Tuno" wrote in message
ups.com...
My 2.73 y/o was in the mix and my wife was standing nearby. A kid
screaming in a temper tantrum is one thing, but kids having fun are as
innocent as the pilot landing out in Farmer John's field. My wife was
very upset too.

Don't know if it's the straw that broke the camel's back (it didn't
help!!!), but on the way home my crew told me that was her last
contest. (At least until the kids are growed up.) FS: 2005 Seabreeze
LX 32' motorhome, 9500 miles, 8L GM Workhorse, every factory option
but the sat dish, a screaming deal at $91,500. WTB: gently used Honda
Ridgeline. Wanted: hotel roommate for 15M Nats at Uvalde next August.

~ted/2NO

Pity some reprobate has to spoil things.

Where I come from a contest without a small horde (pun intended) is unheard of.
The kids, and their parents are the current community and the future of gliding
- we should (and most do) encourage them.

Last contest I was at they erected a whole recreation area for them, and drafted
in a couple of young ladies to keep an eye... Happy kids are noisier than your
average glider pilot, but frequently less childish.

I know competing is a selfish activity but it can't be that much effort to
stretch your social skills to accommodate a couple of kids after flying. Someone
should point out to the said reprobate that if what he / she wants is absolute
solitude it can be arranged - as in "there's the gate. Please close it on the
way out" - If you let individuals alienate families, eventually all you have
left at these events will be the group of misfits with no family, and about as
many friends. But hell it WILL be quiet, except for them grumbling about the
decline in gliding.
/rant

As an example - we have one family that flies at our club - Mom and Dad share a
single seater, participate in the management of the club and generally are very
useful members. They have two kids, a pre-teen who will probably solo at sixteen
and an autistic daughter who can be a real challenge. If we had not accepted
her, and found ways to ensure her safety, and keep her from damaging the
equipment when her father started as a student we would not have the benefit of
their membership and friendship. We all grew from having her around. In fact her
self absorption is similar to some others, she just doesn't fly.


Tuno wrote:
My 2.73 y/o was in the mix and my wife was standing nearby. A kid
screaming in a temper tantrum is one thing, but kids having fun are as
innocent as the pilot landing out in Farmer John's field. My wife was
very upset too.

Don't know if it's the straw that broke the camel's back (it didn't
help!!!), but on the way home my crew told me that was her last
contest. (At least until the kids are growed up.) FS: 2005 Seabreeze
LX 32' motorhome, 9500 miles, 8L GM Workhorse, every factory option
but the sat dish, a screaming deal at $91,500. WTB: gently used Honda
Ridgeline. Wanted: hotel roommate for 15M Nats at Uvalde next August.

~ted/2NO

On Jul 8, 6:19 pm, Andy wrote:
On Jul 8, 12:29 pm, JMR wrote:
if you can't put up with a little youthful banter, SHUT UP and

go somewhere else. Otherwise, take it up with me personally!!!

Are you the parent of the shrieking girl?

You must be the example of the jerks....

Don't fight stupidity with anger, just ignore them and you will find the
rest of the the people around the sport are very friendly.

Oh really?????? That does not seem to be the case!!!!

Jacek
Washington State

Interesting-Parents of unruly kids telling other to Shut up and go
somewhere out.

Those are the probably the same children that are unruly and
disturbing other at restaurant, commercial airplane and other public
places-of course those parents never realize this. Talk about rude.

I am sure that we talking about good kids with parents that have their
own views on child behaviors.

This doesn't have much to do with soaring and contest.

On Jul 9, 11:23 am, wrote:

You must be the example of the jerks....

That may be your conclusion but I don't think you were there were
you? Your comment is not only unfounded but inappropriate in this
forum.

On Jul 9, 12:22 pm, Andy wrote:
On Jul 9, 11:23 am, wrote:



You must be the example of the jerks....

That may be your conclusion but I don't think you were there were
you? Your comment is not only unfounded but inappropriate in this
forum.

I was.......