Single engine CV trap

Twin engine aircraft have been operating routinely from USN carriers for nearly sixty years now. The earliest to routinely operate was the AJ Savage, (which actually had three engines, of course), I guess. The F2H was in the Fleet about that time as well - 1950ish. (I figure the F7F doesn't count since as far as I know no squadron ever deployed on a cruise.)

Anyway...

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever landed aboard with an engine out?

"Larry Cauble" wrote...

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to
land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever
landed aboard with an engine out?

Don't know of one off hand that has NOT!

A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18...

In article ,
Larry Cauble wrote:

Twin engine aircraft have been operating routinely from USN carriers for
nearly sixty years now. The earliest to routinely operate was the AJ
Savage, (which actually had three engines, of course), I guess. The F2H
was in the Fleet about that time as well - 1950ish. (I figure the F7F
doesn't count since as far as I know no squadron ever deployed on a
cruise.)

Anyway...

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to
land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever
landed aboard with an engine out?

Dunno about the USN, but of RN types the Fairey Gannet could, of course.
IIRC the Short Sturgeon was the first twin designed to be able to land on
with an engine out, but of course it never went operational from 'carriers.

--
Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales, Aberystwyth
Feng Shui: an ancient oriental art for extracting
money from the gullible (Martin Sinclair)

On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:07:44 +0100, Larry Cauble
wrote:


Twin engine aircraft have been operating routinely from USN carriers for
nearly sixty years now. The earliest to routinely operate was the AJ
Savage, (which actually had three engines, of course), I guess. The F2H
was in the Fleet about that time as well - 1950ish. (I figure the F7F
doesn't count since as far as I know no squadron ever deployed on a
cruise.)

Anyway...

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to
land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever
landed aboard with an engine out?

Many times in the S-2/E-1/C-1 community. The barrier was rigged for
the landing and it frequently resulted in serious (even "strike")
damage to the aircraft.

I would guess the same to be true for the E-2/C-2 community.

And the S-3 community.

Bill Kambic

Member, RAFS

Originally Posted by John Weiss[_1_]

"Larry Cauble" wrote...

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS) to
land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever
landed aboard with an engine out?

Don't know of one off hand that has NOT!

A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18...

So when an A-6, F-4, F-14 or F-18 with one engine out lands, is it into the barrier like the props?

"Larry Cauble" wrote in message
...

'John Weiss[_1_ Wrote:
;519294']"Larry Cauble"
wrote...-

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS)
to
land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever
landed aboard with an engine out?-

Don't know of one off hand that has NOT!

A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18...

So when an A-6, F-4, F-14 or F-18 with one engine out lands, is it into
the barrier like the props?

Generally not. There's enough thrust single engine to bolter.

R / John

Don't know of one off hand that has NOT!
A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18...

Any done at night? THAT would be a superman story!

TV

In article ,
"John Carrier" wrote:

"Larry Cauble" wrote in message
...

'John Weiss[_1_ Wrote:
;519294']"Larry Cauble"
wrote...-

Has any twin-engine aircraft been authorized (per manual or NATOPS)
to
land with an engine inoperative? Has any twin-engine aircraft ever
landed aboard with an engine out?-

Don't know of one off hand that has NOT!

A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18...

So when an A-6, F-4, F-14 or F-18 with one engine out lands, is it into
the barrier like the props?

Generally not. There's enough thrust single engine to bolter.

R / John

And / or the boat can make enough wind over the deck to make it
reasonable.

I have one each S2 and S3 trap with one out, the S3 trap was at night.
Neither case had the barrier rigged. Neither was a particular problem.

In the case of the S3, the a/c was a bit more sensitive to glide slope
control since the operating engine was at much higher power than either
engine if both were operating.
Allan Rypka
VS 38, VS 22, VS 41
TV wrote:
Don't know of one off hand that has NOT!
A-6, E-2, F-4, F/A-18...

Any done at night? THAT would be a superman story!

TV

"Larry Cauble" wrote...

So when an A-6, F-4, F-14 or F-18 with one engine out lands, is it into
the barrier like the props?

In general, no. The pilot will usually get a couple chances to make a normal
approach and landing. However, bad weather may dictate the barricade for the
first try.