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Hey guys,
I am a presolo guy, about 11 hours now and getting close to solo. While studying tonight I couldn\'t really figure out the difference between magnetic/true course and magnetic/true bearing. So as far as I understand it, bearing is a referenced heading to somewhere you want to go, for example: I am flying on heading of 060 heading and to and the VOR is on a 090 bearing (Heading of 090 required to fly direct) Course is an intended flight line, so if I plan to fly from a to b (with a heading of 090 to b) My course throughout the flight would be 090, even if I am 30 miles off course, the course would be 090 while the bearing would change, correct? Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Thanks guys! |
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On 30 Aug 2007 05:00:02 GMT, Allen Smith
wrote: Hey guys, I am a presolo guy, about 11 hours now and getting close to solo. While studying tonight I couldn\'t really figure out the difference between magnetic/true course and magnetic/true bearing. So as far as I understand it, bearing is a referenced heading to somewhere you want to go, for example: I am flying on heading of 060 heading and to and the VOR is on a 090 bearing (Heading of 090 required to fly direct) Course is an intended flight line, so if I plan to fly from a to b (with a heading of 090 to b) My course throughout the flight would be 090, even if I am 30 miles off course, the course would be 090 while the bearing would change, correct? Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Thanks guys! Crudely, your bearing is what your compass says at any given time. Your course is your track over the ground. If there is a wind aloft that is not directly in line with your course, the two will be different. Going from wherever you are to a VOR at point b, the course you have to fly is what the line on your chart says, or what the Omni Bearing Selector (OBS) on your VOR head says when the needle is centered and the flag says TO. Bearing is the compass direction you point the nose of the airplane in to keep the needle centered. Just to make your brain hurt, courses and bearings are relative to magnetic North, while the Winds Aloft forecasts (which you might use for dead reckoning) give wind direction in terms of the place in the sky the winds appear to be coming FROM -- in terms of true North. This is fairly simple stuff when you're sitting at a desk, but it can be confusing when you're stressed because somebody moved the landmarks while you weren't looking, or the airplane is bouncing around and making funny noises, etc. That's why it's good to practice stuff like wind triangles and dead reckoning on the ground a lot -- to give your brain some familiar things to latch onto later on -- even if it seems during your cross countries like all you're ever going to need to do is follow the magenta line on your GPS. Don |
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In rec.aviation.piloting, on Thu 30 Aug 2007 12:00:02a, Allen Smith
wrote: Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Basically it boils down to this -- bearing is which way you're pointing and course is which way you're going. Think about it like paddling a canoe across a river. You point your canoe directly perpendicular to the river bank (that would be your bearing / heading), but your actual path is an angle downstream (your course). |
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Thanks for both replies! I can visualize it now!
Now I got a question, how is the bearing mag. differrent from the mag. bearing? Also, what about a rhumb line? Let's say now wind exist, is the course and bearing going to be the same? |
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Don Tuite wrote:
Crudely, your bearing is what your compass says at any given time. Your course is your track over the ground. You know, I always thought "bearing" was always relative. For example, if someone tells me a target is at bearing 90 degrees I always know to look out over my right shoulder and if they tell me I have a Klingon warship bearing 180 I know I have a Klingon directly aft - whether I'm traveling north, south, east, west, up, or down. But it appears that in navigation the zero degree reference direction is generally understood to be magnetic north unless context states otherwise. Here's the Wikipedia info which seems to match your explanation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Course_(navigation) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearing_%28navigation%29 |
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Really-Old-Fart schrieb:
Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Basically it boils down to this -- bearing is which way you're pointing and course is which way you're going. No, this is wrong. Actually, the difference between course and bearing is quite subtle. Course is the direction from the start point to the end point of a navigation segment. Bearing is the direction from your present actual position to the end point of the navigation segment. Ideally this would be the same as course, but it need not, because you can deviate from the straight line. Heading is the direction in which you point the nose of your aircraft. And last there is track, which is the path you actually fly. Without wind and if you fly a perfectly straight line, all four are the same. With wind, or if are not capable to hold the direct line, of if you simply choose to deliberately deviate from the straight line, the four values differ from each otehr. Stefan |
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Don Tuite wrote:
On 30 Aug 2007 05:00:02 GMT, Allen Smith wrote: Hey guys, I am a presolo guy, about 11 hours now and getting close to solo. While studying tonight I couldn\'t really figure out the difference between magnetic/true course and magnetic/true bearing. So as far as I understand it, bearing is a referenced heading to somewhere you want to go, for example: I am flying on heading of 060 heading and to and the VOR is on a 090 bearing (Heading of 090 required to fly direct) Course is an intended flight line, so if I plan to fly from a to b (with a heading of 090 to b) My course throughout the flight would be 090, even if I am 30 miles off course, the course would be 090 while the bearing would change, correct? Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Thanks guys! Crudely, your bearing is what your compass says at any given time. Your course is your track over the ground. If there is a wind aloft that is not directly in line with your course, the two will be different. No, this is magnetic heading. Going from wherever you are to a VOR at point b, the course you have to fly is what the line on your chart says, or what the Omni Bearing Selector (OBS) on your VOR head says when the needle is centered and the flag says TO. Bearing is the compass direction you point the nose of the airplane in to keep the needle centered. No it is not. Just to make your brain hurt, courses and bearings are relative to magnetic North, while the Winds Aloft forecasts (which you might use for dead reckoning) give wind direction in terms of the place in the sky the winds appear to be coming FROM -- in terms of true North. This is fairly simple stuff when you're sitting at a desk, but it can be confusing when you're stressed because somebody moved the landmarks while you weren't looking, or the airplane is bouncing around and making funny noises, etc. That's why it's good to practice stuff like wind triangles and dead reckoning on the ground a lot -- to give your brain some familiar things to latch onto later on -- even if it seems during your cross countries like all you're ever going to need to do is follow the magenta line on your GPS. Yes, simple, but you still got it wrong. Matt |
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![]() "Allen Smith" wrote in message ... Hey guys, I am a presolo guy, about 11 hours now and getting close to solo. While studying tonight I couldn\'t really figure out the difference between magnetic/true course and magnetic/true bearing. So as far as I understand it, bearing is a referenced heading to somewhere you want to go, for example: I am flying on heading of 060 heading and to and the VOR is on a 090 bearing (Heading of 090 required to fly direct) Course is an intended flight line, so if I plan to fly from a to b (with a heading of 090 to b) My course throughout the flight would be 090, even if I am 30 miles off course, the course would be 090 while the bearing would change, correct? Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Thanks guys! Oh no, not another one! |
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Bearing "To"
Course "From" is what I was taught.. BT "Allen Smith" wrote in message ... Hey guys, I am a presolo guy, about 11 hours now and getting close to solo. While studying tonight I couldn\'t really figure out the difference between magnetic/true course and magnetic/true bearing. So as far as I understand it, bearing is a referenced heading to somewhere you want to go, for example: I am flying on heading of 060 heading and to and the VOR is on a 090 bearing (Heading of 090 required to fly direct) Course is an intended flight line, so if I plan to fly from a to b (with a heading of 090 to b) My course throughout the flight would be 090, even if I am 30 miles off course, the course would be 090 while the bearing would change, correct? Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Thanks guys! |
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Can I inject a little sanity to this thread? The AIM's Pilot/Controller
Glossary says that bearing is "The horizontal direction to or from any point, usually measured clockwise from true north, magnetic north, or some other reference point, through 360 degrees." It defines course as "The intended flight direction in the horizontal plane measured in degreee from north." Bearing has nothing to do with direction of travel. If a controller says "You have traffic at three o'clock," that traffic is on a bearing of 90 degrees from you. Course is a line on the chart; heading is the actual direction the airplane is pointing, which differs from course by the wind correction angle. Ground track is, hopefully, the same as course (if the wind correction angle is exactly right). Bob Gardner THE COMPLETE PRIVATE PILOT "Allen Smith" wrote in message ... Hey guys, I am a presolo guy, about 11 hours now and getting close to solo. While studying tonight I couldn\'t really figure out the difference between magnetic/true course and magnetic/true bearing. So as far as I understand it, bearing is a referenced heading to somewhere you want to go, for example: I am flying on heading of 060 heading and to and the VOR is on a 090 bearing (Heading of 090 required to fly direct) Course is an intended flight line, so if I plan to fly from a to b (with a heading of 090 to b) My course throughout the flight would be 090, even if I am 30 miles off course, the course would be 090 while the bearing would change, correct? Can somebody give me easy examples to understand? My next flight lesson is scheduled for next week... Thanks guys! |
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