Israel Bombs Syrian Camp

(robert arndt) wrote:

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Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

Are you nuts, Rob?

Grantland

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/new...0603-syria.htm

Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

The Israeli aircraft did not penetrate Syrian airspace. The aircraft
launched stand-off weapons from Lebanese airspace. It is believed that
Popeye's were used in this strike.

TJ

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(robert arndt) wrote:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/new...0603-syria.htm

Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

Are you nuts, Rob?

Grantland

Not at all. Have you been reading the Jewish papers for the past year?
Israel has repeatedly warned Syria about financing terrorism in Israel
and smuggling weapons and IJ infiltrators into the country. Israel has
also stated publically that they will never allow the Iranian nuclear
program to go forward to the point where a bomb could be constructed.
Both the Iranian reactor and the other underground installations are
targets. The reactor can be hit from the air while covert Israeli
agents will sabotage the other elements of the program. Since we are
nearing that deadline, I'd side with Israel which has kept its
promises threat-wise to any hostile nation that dare present danger to
the Jewish State. And since the US supports Israel, I'd say that could
be interpreted as a greenlight by Sharon.
Sharon has already consulted with President Bush on the Iranian
nuclear program and the threat it is to Israel. The US is keeping up
the diplomatic pressure but militarily is bogged down in Iraq. Israel
is going to have to strike Iran alone. I doubt the US will restrain
them. They can live through UN/World condemnation. They've done it
before.
BTW, why the support for Syria? They are a true enemy of peace and
proven terror state. Israel should have hit Damascus as well...

Rob

(robert arndt) wrote:

(Grantland) wrote in message ...
(robert arndt) wrote:

http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/new...0603-syria.htm

Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

Are you nuts, Rob?

Grantland

Not at all. Have you been reading the Jewish papers for the past year?
Israel has repeatedly warned Syria about financing terrorism in Israel
and smuggling weapons and IJ infiltrators into the country. Israel has
also stated publically that they will never allow the Iranian nuclear
program to go forward to the point where a bomb could be constructed.
Both the Iranian reactor and the other underground installations are
targets. The reactor can be hit from the air while covert Israeli
agents will sabotage the other elements of the program. Since we are
nearing that deadline, I'd side with Israel which has kept its
promises threat-wise to any hostile nation that dare present danger to
the Jewish State. And since the US supports Israel, I'd say that could
be interpreted as a greenlight by Sharon.
Sharon has already consulted with President Bush on the Iranian
nuclear program and the threat it is to Israel. The US is keeping up
the diplomatic pressure but militarily is bogged down in Iraq. Israel
is going to have to strike Iran alone. I doubt the US will restrain
them. They can live through UN/World condemnation. They've done it
before.
BTW, why the support for Syria? They are a true enemy of peace and
proven terror state. Israel should have hit Damascus as well...

Rob

Well I'm speechless. You don't suppose such reckless belligerence
might be characterized as "The neo-con/Zionist agenda of WWIII", do
you? or would that just be "In other words, you just hate Jews and
anyone who tolerates them."

'Different planet. Phew.

Grantland

(robert arndt) wrote in message . com...
http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/new...0603-syria.htm

Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

Out of curiousity, what type of aircraft and weapons were used in this attack?

AC

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Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

The Israeli aircraft did not penetrate Syrian airspace. The aircraft
launched stand-off weapons from Lebanese airspace. It is believed that
Popeye's were used in this strike.

TJ

Please post source for that claim.

Rob

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Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

The Israeli aircraft did not penetrate Syrian airspace. The aircraft
launched stand-off weapons from Lebanese airspace. It is believed that
Popeye's were used in this strike.

TJ

Are you sure? IAF jets flew over Assad's summer palace in Latakia in
August. They flew so low they broke out many of the palace windows. So
why would the Israelis need a stand-off weapon when it is clear their
AF can go anywhere in the region, anytime?

It doesn't make sense and I have not read any use of the weapon you
mention in the Jerusalem Post.


Kenneth Williams

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/new...0603-syria.htm

Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?

First of all, I would like to hear from you where have I said "I believe"
Israel would not attack any target in the region it - for whatever reasons -
considers worth an attack?

This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Once again, Robert, you have proven how little you know and how shortsighted
you are. It is so endlessly naive - nothing short of stupid - to think that
this "impressed" anybody there - especially not in the way you whish it
would - in Damascus, in Amman, in Ryadh, in Hufuf, in Tehran, or in the last
Yemeni hamlet.

This raid, regardless the size, only once again confirmed to the Syrians
that Israel is an aggressor - like it always was in their eyes - and has
once again supported their own regime, which uses the situation with Israel
in order to drag the attention of its own people away from the problems it
causes. In that sence, it was nothing new: one can only once again
congratulate Sharon for helping all the Arab despots remain in power.

And so, you can only expect from them to do even more of whatever they can
to support whoever fights Israel: that includes support for the whole list
of terrorist organizations, which they consider as "freedom fighters". If
you think this has caused anybody - regardless if Syria or Iran - to fear
Israel,

you're dead wrong.


Tom Cooper
Co-Author:
Iran-Iraq War in the Air, 1980-1988:
http://www.acig.org/pg1/content.php
and,
Iranian F-4 Phantom II Units in Combat:
http://www.osprey-publishing.co.uk/t...hp/title=S6585

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http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/new...100603-syria.h
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Way to go IAF! Undetected, on target, and unscathed. Who (besides Tom
Cooper) actually believes Israel doesn't have the will, ability, and
guts to attack any target in the region that threatens the security of
the Jewish State?
This raid, although small, definately woke Syria up yesterday to the
fact that state sponsored terrorism won't be ignored by Israel. Iran
should take notes as they're next on the list...

Rob

The Israeli aircraft did not penetrate Syrian airspace. The aircraft
launched stand-off weapons from Lebanese airspace. It is believed that
Popeye's were used in this strike.

TJ

Are you sure? IAF jets flew over Assad's summer palace in Latakia in
August. They flew so low they broke out many of the palace windows. So
why would the Israelis need a stand-off weapon when it is clear their
AF can go anywhere in the region, anytime?

It doesn't make sense and I have not read any use of the weapon you
mention in the Jerusalem Post.


Kenneth Williams

Just a theory of mine, but has proved to have been wrong. The Israeli's flew
out over the Med and back down through the north of Lebanon. The egress was
also back through Lebanon to the Med.

From news snippets:

"A senior Israeli military official said one person had apparently been
injured in the strike, in which one or two Israeli F-16 fighter jets dropped
two bombs, each at least 1,100 pounds, destroying two buildings at the camp,
called Ein Saheb."

"The council was convened at the request of Syria's Ambassador to the UN,
Fayssal Mekdad, who asked the council to discuss the "violations of Syrian
and Lebanese airspace committed by the Israeli air force"

TJ