Bertie 737 question

Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Big John

On Jun 11, 7:14*am, Big John wrote:
Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Big John

Was that United?
Cheers

"More_Flaps" wrote in message
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On Jun 11, 7:14 am, Big John wrote:
Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Big John

Was that United?
Cheers

Looking for a rimshot?

"Big John" wrote in message
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Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Big John

Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.

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"Big John" wrote in message
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Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Big John

Thanks Big John, you're feeding the troll.




BERTIE HUNGRY!



Bertie

Big John wrote in
:

Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and flaps
come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes. three,
it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four it
gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
greaser..


Bertie

On Jun 11, 1:13 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Big John wrote :



Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and flaps
come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes. three,
it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four it
gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
greaser..

Bertie

I can understand everything you said about firm landings, except the
tire scuffing comment. It would seem to me landing firm would smoke
the tires since they have to accelerate to the correct speed right
now, where a gentle touch down would let them accelerate more slowly.
A more gentle acceleration means less shear forces on the tire, so I'm
missing something important. Are there any insights you can offer?

Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.

I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
photos.

Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
what's with this flying without headsets?

JN


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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Big John wrote in
:

Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and
flaps
come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes.
three,
it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four
it
gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
greaser..


Bertie

On Jun 11, 8:19 am, "Viperdoc" wrote:
Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.

I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
photos.

Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
what's with this flying without headsets?

JN

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in 8.18...

Big John wrote in
:

Bertie

I flew four flightin the 737 over Memorial week.

Each landing started from a down wind and long stablized final VFR.

I did not detect any attitude change or thorttle change after turning
final.

I also DID NOT feel or see any flare and impact with ground was what I
would say was hard.

Is this normal in the 737, to set up an attitude and fly into the
ground without flaring?

Nothing broke on any of the landings and we walked awasy from each so
must have been good ladings like they say???

Well, the airpane doesn't pitch so much largely because the slats and
flaps
come out together, unlike airplanes with flaps only. If you fly smoothly
power changes should be minimal. We don't really flare in the same way you
would in most. just a quick tug at abou t15 feet to reduce the rate of
descent, but we're not supposed to grease it on for a few reasons. One,
float and wasted runway. two, it gets all the spoilers and othe squat
switch things going as well as the immediate availability of brakes.
three,
it breaks the surface tension of any water if it's a wet runway and four
it
gets the wheels spinning straight away. you can scuff tires badly in a
greaser..

Bertie

I think you're in a lot of trouble when a primary gauge is a piece of
yarn taped to the windscreen!

Viperdoc wrote:
Just landed yesterday in a British Air 73. Unlike American jets, didn't feel
any thrust reverse, just some pretty hefty braking action. At least they
gave us a sandwich, unlike the American carriers.

I wonder if Anthony will be surprised when I stop by his place on Rue de
General in Paris? I have a lot of camera gear, so will be sure to post
photos.

Will do some sail plane flying in Provence later this week- it's a lot
different experience, much adverse yaw and lots of rudder required, and
what's with this flying without headsets?

JN


Take one of his tours and don't tell him who you are till the end. And
if I don't see photos I will be very upset.