Desert MOA's

Please be careful out there. I just got an earful from a fighter
pilot who said he had an 'encounter' with a glider over the Pahranagat
valley tuesday afternoon. That's a VERY busy corridor Monday through
Friday.

Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
Please be careful out there. I just got an earful from a fighter
pilot who said he had an 'encounter' with a glider over the Pahranagat
valley tuesday afternoon. That's a VERY busy corridor Monday through
Friday.

Damn pesky gliders, blasting all over SHARED USE airspace at near
supersonic speeds, not paying the least bit of attention to the
occasional fighter jock that gets in their way...

I'm confused. He gave you an earful? ... when you had the right-of-
way? I'm missing something here ... think think think ...

On Jul 10, 9:46*am, Tuno wrote:
I'm confused. He gave you an earful? ... when you had the right-of-
way? I'm missing something here ... think think think ...

Sorry all, I misstated. I didn't get an 'earful'. More of a heads
up. Yep, the glider not only has the right to be there, but the right-
of-way as well. The mil pilot just wanted to emphasize that's just
about the busiest corridor in a MOA in the US.

Tuno wrote:
I'm confused. He gave you an earful? ... when you had the right-of-
way? I'm missing something here ... think think think ...

Here's what you're missing:

The other pilot was flying the latest USAF weapon: a balloon fighter
aircraft - something the enemy would never expect!

Wasn't the subject line MOA?

At 16:46 10 July 2008, Tuno wrote:
I'm confused. He gave you an earful? ... when you had the right-of-
way? I'm missing something here ... think think think ...

Tuno wrote:
I'm confused. He gave you an earful? ... when you had the right-of-
way? I'm missing something here ... think think think ...

Must have been Navy. I have a habit of contacting the listed
controlling party when I'm about to enter an MOA. USAF controllers are
usually very helpful, advise me where the traffic is likely to be, and
have never been an issue. Typical Navy exchange:

me: Fallon Approach, glider N303MR slash uniform at 15000 feet 20 miles
south of Austin, will be transiting Gabbs Central MOA, heading towards
Hawthorne.

Fallon: N303MR Gabb Central MOA is currently in use, stay clear, also [lists off every MOA and Restricted area under his control] in use, stay
clear.

me: Fallon Approach, N303MR is unable to comply, entering Gabbs Central
now, please advise traffic in the area.

Then I switch back to 123.3...

Nyal Williams wrote:

Wasn't the subject line MOA?

Is that relevant? I can't find any qualifiers in the FARs indicating that
changes the right-of-way regulation.

At 16:46 10 July 2008, Tuno wrote:
I'm confused. He gave you an earful? ... when you had the right-of-
way? I'm missing something here ... think think think ...

Wasn't the subject line MOA?

Yeah, so? A MOA is a sandbox where mil aircraft are supposed to play;
it is not an exclusion zone, for civil/GA to stay out of (unless
you’re a power-mad airspace-grabbing bureaucrat working for the Luke
AFB CG).

Glad to hear that the original exchange was really a "heads-up". I
like hearing those from the heavy metal!

~ted/2NO

Nice epitaph - "He had the right-of-way"

Mike