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In the Sept 08 issue of RC Sport Flyer magazine, there are a number of
soaring focused articles:
- Dynamic soaring (pg 56). These guys get their RC gliders to over
300mph!
- Vintage Glider rally (pg 40)
- ASG-29 (pg 122). About 1/3 scale. It's huge!

Go to: http://rc-sf.com/current_issue/current.html

Note the ability to preview (at medium res) the pages, hence the pages
#s above.

I have no financial interest in this, only an interest to point out
high quality articles outside of the usual reading.

Kemp

On Aug 17, 10:15*am, Kemp wrote:
In the Sept 08 issue of RC Sport Flyer magazine, there are a number of
soaring focused articles:
- Dynamic soaring (pg 56). *These guys get their RC gliders to over
300mph!
- Vintage Glider rally (pg 40)
- ASG-29 (pg 122). *About 1/3 scale. *It's huge!

Go to: *http://rc-sf.com/current_issue/current.html

Note the ability to preview (at medium res) the pages, hence the pages
#s above.

I have no financial interest in this, only an interest to point out
high quality articles outside of the usual reading.

Kemp

With regards to R/C dynamic soaring, the current record is 365 mph
with 2.5 meters span. A big problem has been that commercial radar
guns won't read past 305 mph. Now they have custom guns prepared so
the record will continue to climb next winter. All the planes are
custom built for this application. Only one commercial model has
exceeded 300 mph.

400 mph should fall this winter with this very special 4 meter one-
off:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778363

My best is 178 mph in the midwest, and then the pieces start falling
off...I can't afford to go any faster! It is very addicting to extract
this kind of speed with a motorless craft.
/Adam

Adam wrote:

With regards to R/C dynamic soaring, the current record is 365 mph
with 2.5 meters span. A big problem has been that commercial radar
guns won't read past 305 mph. Now they have custom guns prepared so
the record will continue to climb next winter. All the planes are
custom built for this application. Only one commercial model has
exceeded 300 mph.

400 mph should fall this winter with this very special 4 meter one-
off:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=778363

Wow! Sounds lethal. I don't think I"d want to fly one unless I was in a
brick hut with Lexan windows.

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Breaking the 400mph barrier is wicked fast for an RC model. Anybody
know what the powered model record is for an airplane? I don't think
the jet models even go this fast. That's amazing!!!

"KevinFinke" wrote in message
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Breaking the 400mph barrier is wicked fast for an RC model. Anybody
know what the powered model record is for an airplane? I don't think
the jet models even go this fast. That's amazing!!!

I think the guys flying long distances in mountain wave should take a good
look at this. There might be a sailplane desgined just for this.

On Aug 19, 5:28*pm, "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote:
"KevinFinke" wrote in message

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Breaking the 400mph barrier is wicked fast for an RC model. Anybody
know what the powered model record is for an airplane? I don't think
the jet models even go this fast. That's amazing!!!

I think the guys flying long distances in mountain wave should take a good
look at this. *There might be a sailplane desgined just for this.

Unfortunately you'd need a pilot designed for it too. Early Dynamic
Soaring planes which tested to over 30 g's folded up pretty quickly.
If they could afford the extra strain due to weight, instrumenting a
nice slow 250 mph glider with an accelerometer would be enlightening.

Are there any videos of this somewhere? Where can I read something about
the models and the conditions required?

At 00:59 20 August 2008, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
On Aug 19, 5:28=A0pm, "Bill Daniels" wrote:
"KevinFinke" wrote in message


...

Breaking the 400mph barrier is wicked fast for an RC model. Anybody
know what the powered model record is for an airplane? I don't
think
the jet models even go this fast. That's amazing!!!

I think the guys flying long distances in mountain wave should take a
goo=
d
look at this. =A0There might be a sailplane desgined just for this.

Unfortunately you'd need a pilot designed for it too. Early Dynamic
Soaring planes which tested to over 30 g's folded up pretty quickly.
If they could afford the extra strain due to weight, instrumenting a
nice slow 250 mph glider with an accelerometer would be enlightening.

On Aug 19, 5:59 pm, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:
On Aug 19, 5:28 pm, "Bill Daniels" bildan@comcast-dot-net wrote:

"KevinFinke" wrote in message

...

Breaking the 400mph barrier is wicked fast for an RC model. Anybody
know what the powered model record is for an airplane? I don't think
the jet models even go this fast. That's amazing!!!

I think the guys flying long distances in mountain wave should take a good
look at this. There might be a sailplane desgined just for this.

Unfortunately you'd need a pilot designed for it too. Early Dynamic
Soaring planes which tested to over 30 g's folded up pretty quickly.
If they could afford the extra strain due to weight, instrumenting a
nice slow 250 mph glider with an accelerometer would be enlightening.

The DuckHawk is planned to have a 200kt VNE and and a 160kt VA as well
as being stressed for +`11 to -9 G's, that fit your bill?
http://www.windward-performance.com/duckhawkintro.php I sure hope to
see some actual hardware for this up highly anticipated and comer this
coming ESA meet at Tehachapi...last I heard wing molds had already
been cut, which is no small task. Windward is trying to have a flying
prototype by the end of this year. With a G-suit, one could actually
attempt to try their hand at dynamic soaring with this machine, at
least within it's airframe/pilot limits...

-Paul

On Aug 19, 6:54 pm, Nyal Williams wrote:
Are there any videos of this somewhere? Where can I read something about
the models and the conditions required?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Raz_iQp39pg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2j-w...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T3pY...eature=related

Model Dynamic soaring:

http://www.tmfc.org.uk/ds/darkside.html

And more complete explanation of more dynamic soaring conditions:

http://www.esoaring.com/albatros_presentation_esa.pdf

-Paul

On Aug 19, 6:54*pm, Nyal Williams wrote:
Are there any videos of this somewhere? *Where can I read something about
the models and the conditions required?

At 00:59 20 August 2008, Uncle Fuzzy wrote:On Aug 19, 5:28=A0pm, "Bill Daniels" *wrote:
"KevinFinke" *wrote in message

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Breaking the 400mph barrier is wicked fast for an RC model. Anybody
know what the powered model record is for an airplane? I don't
think
the jet models even go this fast. That's amazing!!!

I think the guys flying long distances in mountain wave should take a
goo=
d
look at this. =A0There might be a sailplane desgined just for this.

Unfortunately you'd need a pilot designed for it too. *Early Dynamic
Soaring planes which tested to over 30 g's folded up pretty quickly.
If they could afford the extra strain due to weight, instrumenting a
nice slow 250 mph glider with an accelerometer would be enlightening.

Google "parker mountain ds" lots there to choose from.

Craig