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With the looks of a rocket, and speed ranges between 225mph tops
and 55mph to land, Im thinking this is the plane I want. Going cross country on mpgs better than my truck and in triple time. They say its a trainer too with a first class view. But I'm still not sure what the drive out price is. The monetary exchange rate of us dollars to english pound puts the dollar up by about 30 cents. Got any idea what a close ball park is? Is it about 70k? And, a lot of kit planes end up under dusty tarps unfinished too. Do people ever go to "kit build" facilities and pay someone else to do it? Or at least get team support. It'd be nice if the price is about 39k. I'm ready to order. |
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Mark wrote:
With the looks of a rocket, and speed ranges between 225mph tops and 55mph to land, Im thinking this is the plane I want. Going cross country on mpgs better than my truck and in triple time. They say its a trainer too with a first class view. But I'm still not sure what the drive out price is. The monetary exchange rate of us dollars to english pound puts the dollar up by about 30 cents. Got any idea what a close ball park is? Is it about 70k? And, a lot of kit planes end up under dusty tarps unfinished too. Do people ever go to "kit build" facilities and pay someone else to do it? Or at least get team support. It'd be nice if the price is about 39k. I'm ready to order. On 50 or 55 sq st of wing? http://www.aero-news.net/FullsizeIma...a-659ee8fcfd71 http://www.lhaviation.com/site_frame...ugh2008_en.htm |
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On Dec 18, 1:20*pm, Richard wrote:
On 50 or 55 sq st of wing? The tarp can be that much smaller. |
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Mark wrote:
Do people ever go to "kit build" facilities and pay someone else to do it? Sure they do. And it is asshats like that that has the FAA looking at screwing up the homebuilt rules. |
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On Dec 19, 12:11*pm, Gig 601Xl Builder
wrote: Mark wrote: Do people ever go to "kit build" facilities and pay someone else to do it? * Sure they do. And it is asshats like that that has the FAA looking at screwing up the homebuilt rules. You can't reasonably fault anyone for not wanting to do the build. Some people don't have the time or interest. If they didn't have to come across the ocean in a box, it would be a mute point here. Although personally, I will scrutinize every detail and facet daily. You can't fault the FAA for wanting to regulate a homespun industry that may produce either flying beauties, or death machines. Its inevitable the somewhere, sometime, a garage full of rednecks will try to make a buck, the consequences unimportant. All that having been said, I guess Its gonna take a phone call to England to get my question answered, ie, what does an LH-10 cost? |
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![]() "Mark" wrote in message ... All that having been said, I guess Its gonna take a phone call to England to get my question answered, ie, what does an LH-10 cost? If you can live with their an$wer, then your next question should be "where can I fly one"? If the answer is "nowhere", I earnestly suggest that you take a walk. One should not need to buy a kit and then build it to find out if the reality of the machine matches the sales literature. Vaughn |
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On Dec 19, 10:09*am, Mark wrote:
You can't reasonably fault anyone for not wanting to do the build... True enough. But you can certainly fault anybody who doesn't do the build yet certifies that the major portion of the aircraft was constructed for the purposes of education and entertainment when that is in fact not the case. They are lying in order to take advantage of regulations specifically designed to encourage experimentation, resourcefulness, and innovation. Defend them how you will, they are still lying. Those who want specialized high performance aircraft but don't want to build them themselves still have many options. They can buy used and already-certificated amateur-built experimentals, or they can buy type certificated aircraft. They can also certify their non-homebuilts in the racing, exhibition, R&D, market survey, or production prototype sub-categories of Experimental, and accept the corresponding operating restrictions. They do not need to fraudulently obtain Amateur-built, Exmerimental certification, and homebuilt aircraft enthusiasts do not need them. Thanks, Bob K. |
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On Dec 19, 2:41*pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote: "Mark" wrote in message ... All that having been said, I guess Its gonna take a phone call to England to get my question answered, ie, what does an LH-10 cost? * *If you can live with their an$wer, then your next question should be "where can I fly one"? *If the answer is "nowhere", I earnestly suggest that you take a walk. *One should not need to buy a kit and then build it to find out if the reality of the machine matches the sales literature. Vaughn True. My policy always has been: No one gets a penny until all the variables pass muster. Mark |
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On Dec 19, 2:51*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Dec 19, 10:09*am, Mark wrote: You can't reasonably fault anyone for not wanting to do the build... True enough. But you can certainly fault anybody who doesn't do the build yet certifies that the major portion of the aircraft was constructed for the purposes of education and entertainment when that is in fact not the case. That indeed would be a narrow category of intention. Acquisition of transportation is my objective. They are lying in order to take advantage of regulations specifically designed to encourage experimentation, resourcefulness, and innovation. Defend them how you will, they are still lying. I see what you're saying. I only have disdain for manipulators of any sort. Those who want specialized high performance aircraft but don't want to build them themselves still have many options. They can buy used and already-certificated amateur-built experimentals, or they can buy type certificated aircraft. The LH-10 is too new to find a preowned. Now, I understand they are having luck getting certification in England and France. But it certainly isn't a transcontinental bird. They can also certify their non-homebuilts in the racing, exhibition, R&D, market survey, or production prototype sub-categories of Experimental, and accept the corresponding operating restrictions. It probably will class as Experimental. The cool thing about this craft is that it would have very practical uses. Its range is 1000 miles. It has been designated as the most ecological plane in its "class" too, both with regard to fuel/speed efficiency, and low noise levels. They do not need to fraudulently obtain Amateur-built, Exmerimental certification, and homebuilt aircraft enthusiasts do not need them. Fradulence doesn't work for me. I think I'm looking for a certification that encompasses the realm of professional small craft manufacturers. I began looking into all this because oddly enough, I located a manufacturing facility nearby that promotes owner builds of their 2 particular models, and think they would help me with the LH-10. I'm not up to date on all the various red tape with such an endeavor. Mark Thanks, Bob K. |
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Mark wrote:
You can't reasonably fault anyone for not wanting to do the build. Some people don't have the time or interest. If they didn't have to come across the ocean in a box, it would be a mute point here. Although personally, I will scrutinize every detail and facet daily. Yes I can fault someone who wants to break the law in such a way that it negatively effects my rights under the law that has worked for years. For those that don't want to build buy used or by certified just don't screw things up for the rest of us. |
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