Any Ballistic Recovery Chute Users?

I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

Ian

At 00:14 04 April 2009, Ian wrote:
I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear
from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

Ian

Only one I've heard of was the sparrowhawk that broke during
highspeed flight testing. I believe the ballistic chute
attachments failed and the pilot used a regular parachute.
Story was in Soaring sometime in the last couple of years.

On Apr 3, 6:00*pm, Gregg Ballou wrote:
At 00:14 04 April 2009, Ian wrote:I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear
from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

Ian

Only one I've heard of was the sparrowhawk that broke during
highspeed flight testing. * I believe the ballistic chute
attachments failed and the pilot used a regular parachute. *
Story was in Soaring sometime in the last couple of years.

August '08 article in Soaring magazine "Lord, if You're Up There" was
written about that incident. Also read
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00364.html

Apis Bee is sold with ballistic recovery as standard equipment. It has
a lower powered engine for German regulations than the Apis M. It is
available as an option on the M model. I have not heard of it being
used. I have not seen reference to the testing either....

Mark
Apis M 821AC

You may want to also contact Hanko Streifeneder who fitted the ballistic
chute to the Discus for purposes of testing and certification.
http://www.streifly.de/gesamtrettungssystem-e.htm

or their home page
http://www.streifly.de/home-e.htm

Ian wrote:
I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

By "used" do you mean has one installed in their glider, or had to deploy
one due to an inflight emergency? I'm assuming the latter.

On Apr 5, 2:58*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Ian wrote:
I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

By "used" do you mean has one installed in their glider, or had to deploy
one due to an inflight emergency? I'm assuming the latter.


There has been at least one installed in an HP-16:

http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...S_in_HP-16.htm

Mike Bamberg wrote:
On Apr 5, 2:58*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Ian wrote:
I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

By "used" do you mean has one installed in their glider, or had to
deploy one due to an inflight emergency? I'm assuming the latter.


There has been at least one installed in an HP-16:

http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...S_in_HP-16.htm

BRS, the most well known U.S. vendor of such chutes, keeps a list of "lives
saved" he

http://brsparachutes.com/files/Docum...ives-Saved.pdf

I see some hang gliders listed where BRS chutes were deployed, but I didn't
see any conventional gliders listed (but I'm not that familiar with model
names, so may have overlooked them.) My own search of the U.S. NTSB
database yielded two accidents where the aircraft had ballistic chutes
that proved of no value due to circumstances of the accidents - accident
IDs SEA04FA111 and DFW07LA006:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...25X00871&key=1
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...30X01573&key=1

(The latter accident has already been mentioned.)

If one includes motorgliders, then all the Pipistrel and Lambada
motorgliders have ballistic chutes available either as standard equipment
or options, depending on the model:

http://www.mcp.com.au/pipistrel-usa/
http://www.urbanairusa.com/

On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 19:57:25 -0700, Mike Bamberg wrote:

On Apr 5, 2:58Â*pm, Jim Logajan wrote:
Ian wrote:
I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

By "used" do you mean has one installed in their glider, or had to
deploy one due to an inflight emergency? I'm assuming the latter.


There has been at least one installed in an HP-16:

http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/HP...S_in_HP-16.htm

Is it just me or is that BRS set up likely to fail on deployment?

I notice that the parachute risers pass round round the front of the
angle extrusion carrying the shoulder straps without, apparently, any
protection to stop the metal edge from cutting the webbing.


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On 5 Apr, 22:58, Jim Logajan wrote:
Ian wrote:
I would be very interested, for professional reasons, to hear from
anyone who has used a ballistic recovery chute in a glider.

By "used" do you mean has one installed in their glider, or had to deploy
one due to an inflight emergency? I'm assuming the latter.

Yup, the latter. Someone who has actually pressed the Big Red Button.

Ian