Negotiations

I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?

On May 6, 10:29*pm, RRK wrote:
* * *I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?

I'm usually too busy looking for lift, or a somewhere to put my glider
that won't total it, to enter any negotiations. I do spend some time
swearing at my audio vario! Regular sacrifices to the lift gods
during campouts (last year's soaring hat, well used sectionals, etc.)
accompanied by clever (or not) speeches or TOSTS are just the ticket.
So far, so good.

On May 6, 10:29*pm, RRK wrote:
* * *I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?

My old stand-by; "please God, give me a thermal and I'll go to church"
hasn't worked in years!
He now requires kneeling in the cockpit!
JJ

I ended up in the trees one time because I was "hoping" for a save and
not paying close enough attention to where I was going to land if
those good looking clouds didn't produce any lift. Believe me, this
is something I won't do twice! Much better than hoping and praying,
is to have a plan! You should have a plan at 5000ft agl, and re-think
the plan every thousand feet as you get lower. Way too many crashes
happen because pilots wait until they are way too low to start
thinking, and praying about their plan of action and panic start to
cloud thier decision making.
Ever notice how hot it gets in the cockpit when you really need to
catch that thermal?

Gary Boggs

* * *I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?

I'm usually too busy looking for lift, or a somewhere to put my glider
that won't total it, to enter any negotiations. I do spend some time
swearing at my audio vario! *Regular sacrifices to the lift gods
during campouts (last year's soaring hat, well used sectionals, etc.)
accompanied by clever (or not) speeches or TOSTS are just the ticket.
So far, so good.

JJ outlanded in a nudist colony one time. Now that's a plan!

Gary Boggs

On May 7, 7:29*am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
JJ outlanded in a nudist colony one time. *Now that's a plan!

Gary Boggs

Need coordinates! Perhaps lat/long info in the Turnpoint Exchange?

On May 7, 7:29*am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
JJ outlanded in a nudist colony one time. *Now that's a plan!

Gary Boggs

Actually it was a cat-house, one of Nevada's finest. My crew (wife)
was there before I could knock on the door!
JJ

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Uncle Fuzzy wrote:

On May 6, 10:29*pm, RRK wrote:
* * *I'm sure I'm not the only X-country sailor who negotiate the lift
deals with the God. You know. You get low, nothing is working, landing
options are limited and there....a little too far away... you see the
very last chance. You have to ask The Almighty for a little help and
have to promise Him something.
Please share you thoughts and ultimate outcomes ?

I'm usually too busy looking for lift, or a somewhere to put my glider
that won't total it, to enter any negotiations. I do spend some time
swearing at my audio vario! Regular sacrifices to the lift gods
during campouts (last year's soaring hat, well used sectionals, etc.)
accompanied by clever (or not) speeches or TOSTS are just the ticket.
So far, so good.

The wreckage of a crashed Cherokee (the homebuilt glider, not the Piper
spam can) was burned on the annual fall bonfire at Caesar Creek (Ohio,
USA) one year. The next year produced some of the best soaring ever seen
in Ohio. We concluded that the burnt offering to the lift gods was well
received.

After a subsequent wet, dreary year, we decide we needed to make
supplication to the gods once again. A large paper mache glider was
constructed. One of the glider port sages suggested that the offering
might be made more effective if we had virgins dance naked around the
fire. This idea was met with much enthusiasm, but, was ultimately
rejected when we realized that while we actually had a fair number of
virgins at the gliderport, none of them were female.

On May 7, 7:02*am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
*Much better than hoping and praying,
is to have a plan! *You should have a plan at 5000ft agl, and re-think
the plan every thousand feet as you get lower. *

No argument with the philosphy but there is nothing magic about 5000ft
agl. In some place I fly you may have very few landing choices at
5,000 ft agl. In other places you may still have lots of choices at
1,000 ft agl.

Rather than specify an altitude it's probably better to decide how
many options you want to keep open. The list reduces with altitude
and the last one left ought to be landing in a known safe place. (No,
it hasn't always worked out that way for me)


Andy

At 17:10 07 May 2009, wrote:
On May 7, 7:29=A0am, GARY BOGGS wrote:
JJ outlanded in a nudist colony one time. =A0Now that's a plan!

Gary Boggs

Actually it was a cat-house, one of Nevada's finest. My crew (wife)
was there before I could knock on the door!
JJ


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