Delivery of Raptor delayed

http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at Langley Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at Langley
Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously
planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still
gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.

Tex

On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:35:59 -0600, "Tex Houston"
wrote:


"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at Langley
Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously
planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still
gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.

Tex


You *do* know what the term "full scale production" means don't you?

"Scott Ferrin" wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:35:59 -0600, "Tex Houston"
wrote:


"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...ry?coll=dp-hea
dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at
Langley
Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously
planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still
gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned
now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.

Tex


You *do* know what the term "full scale production" means don't you?

Yes, a changing figure projected to a fictious date sometime in the distant
future when the final example rolls off the line at a rate to be determined.
You take yourself so seriously you don't seem to have a sense of humor.

Please put my name in your "Blocked Senders" list. I don't want you unhappy
but at least the subject is on topic. Much of the stuff in the newsgroup
isn't which is why I unsubscribed weeks ago and am thinking of doing so
again.

Tex

"Tex Houston" wrote in message ...
"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at Langley
Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously
planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still
gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.

And at almost $200 million a piece! But at least this aircraft lives
up to its name "Raptor"- a dinosaur... which should get Congressional
extinction!
By the time full production is achieved the aircraft won't amount to
any significant number, not being able to replace the F-15 by any
means.

Rob



Tex

robert arndt wrote:

"Tex Houston" wrote in message ...

"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews

The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at Langley

Air

Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously

planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still

gotten

full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.


And at almost $200 million a piece! But at least this aircraft lives
up to its name "Raptor"- a dinosaur... which should get Congressional
extinction!
By the time full production is achieved the aircraft won't amount to
any significant number, not being able to replace the F-15 by any
means.
Well if you look at how many B2's were built to replace B1's & B52's,
What you say may have some truth in it.

Bob


Rob



Tex



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robert arndt wrote:


[...] But at least this aircraft lives
up to its name "Raptor"- a dinosaur...


Aargh!!

One day, the dictionary editors will just give up, and replace the
'raptor' entry

NOUN: A bird of prey.
ETYMOLOGY: Latin, one who seizes, from rapere, to seize. See rapt.

with

NOUN: a species of dinosaur
ETYMOLOGY: From "velociraptor" (ref: "Jurassic Park", brain-dead
Hollywood blockbuster movie)


Andreas

"robert arndt" wrote in message
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"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at
Langley
Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously
planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still
gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned
now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.

And at almost $200 million a piece! But at least this aircraft lives
up to its name "Raptor"- a dinosaur... which should get Congressional
extinction!

It's funny that people who don't want America to be a powerful nation also
want to axe the F-22 (among other things).

Please explain, factually and technically, how the Raptor is 'obsolete' as
you consistently assert? Do you not believe that it is an order of magnitude
more capable than any other fighter plane in the world? If so, please cite
by using a direct comparison.

By the time full production is achieved the aircraft won't amount to
any significant number, not being able to replace the F-15 by any
means.


You do realize that we only have 342 active F-15C's right now, right? Seems
to me that the 339 Raptors we ordered will be able to take over their role
quite well, all things considered.

On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 12:46:45 GMT, "Thomas J. Paladino Jr."
wrote:


"robert arndt" wrote in message
. com...
"Tex Houston" wrote in message
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"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message
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http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-43...dlines-topnews
The long-awaited F/A-22 Raptor fighter jets will not arrive at
Langley
Air
Force Base until next May -about five months later than previously
planned.

Has any other aircraft program ever been delayed this much and still
gotten
full scale production?

-HJC

What makes you believe 'full scale production'? What is being planned
now
is but a fraction of the original 'full scale'.

And at almost $200 million a piece! But at least this aircraft lives
up to its name "Raptor"- a dinosaur... which should get Congressional
extinction!

It's funny that people who don't want America to be a powerful nation also
want to axe the F-22 (among other things).

Please explain, factually and technically, how the Raptor is 'obsolete' as
you consistently assert? Do you not believe that it is an order of magnitude
more capable than any other fighter plane in the world? If so, please cite
by using a direct comparison.

By the time full production is achieved the aircraft won't amount to
any significant number, not being able to replace the F-15 by any
means.


You do realize that we only have 342 active F-15C's right now, right? Seems
to me that the 339 Raptors we ordered will be able to take over their role
quite well, all things considered.

i think people are forgetting that when the initial production is over
with, the cost of the plane should go down,since we are no longer
paying for the jigs and devolopement of the prototype.

Please explain, factually and technically, how the Raptor is 'obsolete' as
you consistently assert? Do you not believe that it is an order of magnitude
more capable than any other fighter plane in the world? If so, please cite
by using a direct comparison.

Anything that "flies" less than speed of the light is obsolete,and as the funds
used to develop "obsolete" equipment must come at the expense of the
development of "post paradigm shift" weaponry,devolopment of obsolete equipment
is detrimental to National defense of "any" country in long term.