Armed forces of an independent Scotland

There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?


[1] see for example:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3310763.stm,
http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.uk/content/default.asp?page=s1_1_1&newsid=4282


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"phil hunt" wrote in message
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There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?


[1] see for example:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3310763.stm,

http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.u...e=s1_1_1&newsi
d=4282


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Frae Auld bob Peffers:
Well Denmark does very well as they are. Anyway Scotland would be entitled
to her share of the UK armed forces, (or if not we could hang on to ALL the
nukes as hostages). If they don't give us our proper share the Indians,
Pakistanis, Israelis or even the Palestinians may pay well for them. Even
the Koreas have nuclear ambitions.

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Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:07:21 +0100, (phil hunt)
wrote:

There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?

4-6 fisheries protection vessels, alsae guid for keeping the damn
English away fra the wee oil platferms.

one of them Brewery ships sounds like a guid idee an all, fer keeping
the troops mora...morae.....spirits oop.
Now, are we goona join that Nato thingie or not?

If we are, then a coople of battalians of infantree shood werk well
fer yon peeckeepin roll, and we can gaw down and smack the damn
Sassenachs occasionaly an all.

A few MPAs (again 4-6) for long range patrol, plus C2 of any SAR work,
plus a dozen Merlins for both land and naval work (SAR, troop
transposrt, resupply).

If Bonnie auld Scotland did ever split, I see them (if you haven't
guessed I'm not a native Scottish speaker) more as an Ireland (minimal
forces except for peacekeping and EEZ patrol), than a Sweden
(extremely large and competant forces for the size of economy and
population).

Peter "Hoots Mon, where's me kilt?" Kemp

"Peter Kemp" wrote in message
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:07:21 +0100, (phil hunt)
wrote:

There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?

4-6 fisheries protection vessels, alsae guid for keeping the damn
English away fra the wee oil platferms.

one of them Brewery ships sounds like a guid idee an all, fer keeping
the troops mora...morae.....spirits oop.
Now, are we goona join that Nato thingie or not?

If we are, then a coople of battalians of infantree shood werk well
fer yon peeckeepin roll, and we can gaw down and smack the damn
Sassenachs occasionaly an all.

A few MPAs (again 4-6) for long range patrol, plus C2 of any SAR work,
plus a dozen Merlins for both land and naval work (SAR, troop
transposrt, resupply).

If Bonnie auld Scotland did ever split, I see them (if you haven't
guessed I'm not a native Scottish speaker) more as an Ireland (minimal
forces except for peacekeping and EEZ patrol), than a Sweden
(extremely large and competant forces for the size of economy and
population).

Peter "Hoots Mon, where's me kilt?" Kemp
Frae Auld Bob Peffers:
Oirish! ye soondit mair lik aa Sootheron til me. Aiblins yo maun bi an
Inglis Oirisher? DARFC
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Robert, (Auld Bob), Peffers,
Kelty,
Fife,
Scotland, (UK).
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E-Mail:-
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:07:21 +0100, I read these words from
(phil hunt) :

There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?

See previous thread re : Ditch full of piranhas !

Scottish Piranha (Queen's Regiment)
abbreviated to "SPQR"
(Senatus Populusque Romanus",
ie "The Senate and People of Rome.")
tenuous link to "Pontius Pilate's Bodyguard"
(the Royal Scots,
oldest Infantry Regiment of the Line in the British Army)

Continuity maintained !

-- The Despicable Stewart
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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:07:21 +0100, I read these words from
(phil hunt) :

There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?

See previous thread re : Ditch full of piranhas !

Scottish Piranha (Queen's Regiment)
abbreviated to "SPQR"
(Senatus Populusque Romanus",
ie "The Senate and People of Rome.")
tenuous link to "Pontius Pilate's Bodyguard"
(the Royal Scots,
oldest Infantry Regiment of the Line in the British Army)

Continuity maintained !

-- The Despicable Stewart
-- Perfidious Alban
-- http://www.ian-stewart.dsl.pipex.com/

"josiah-jenkins" wrote in message


Scottish Piranha (Queen's Regiment)
abbreviated to "SPQR"
(Senatus Populusque Romanus",
ie "The Senate and People of Rome.")
tenuous

Extremely tenuous!

link to "Pontius Pilate's Bodyguard"
(the Royal Scots,
oldest Infantry Regiment of the Line in the British Army)

Are they not a tank regiment now? An ex-neighbour of mine was sent to
Ir*q as part of the recent illegal invasion force and he was in a tank
(his mother reportedly said "can you imagine what it smells like in a
tank full of 18 year old boys?"). I'm pretty sure it is the Royal Scots
that he is in.

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"phil hunt" wrote in message
rg...
There's recently been speculation in the media that UK defence cuts
ewill result in some or all of Scotland's infantry regiments being
disbanded[1]. If Scotland became an independent state, what
sort of armed forces should it have -- if you were appointed
Scottish minister of defence, what would you do?


[1] see for example:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/3310763.stm,


http://scotlandtoday.scottishtv.co.u...e=s1_1_1&newsi
d=4282


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Frae Auld bob Peffers:
Well Denmark does very well as they are. Anyway Scotland would be entitled
to her share of the UK armed forces, (or if not we could hang on to ALL
the
nukes as hostages). If they don't give us our proper share the Indians,
Pakistanis, Israelis or even the Palestinians may pay well for them. Even
the Koreas have nuclear ambitions.

Explain this bit, please.

'But senior civil servants say the current level of poor Army recruiting and
retention cannot go on. Already, Scottish regiments rely on hundreds of
Fijian soldiers to bolster the ranks, at a time when commitments to Iraq and
Afghanistan are mounting.'

Ian Morrison wrote:
"josiah-jenkins" wrote in message


(the Royal Scots,
oldest Infantry Regiment of the Line in the British Army)

Are they not a tank regiment now?

Still light-role infantry according to the British Army. They have been to
Iraq, but don't seem to have gone in during the invasion, ariving in
December of 2003.

An ex-neighbour of mine was sent to
Ir*q as part of the recent illegal invasion force and he was in a tank
(his mother reportedly said "can you imagine what it smells like in a
tank full of 18 year old boys?"). I'm pretty sure it is the Royal
Scots that he is in.

Perhaps he is actually in the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards, who are a tank
unit and were in the actual invasion force.

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On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:15:50 +0000 (UTC), I read these words from "Ian
Morrison" :

"josiah-jenkins" wrote in message


Scottish Piranha (Queen's Regiment)
abbreviated to "SPQR"
(Senatus Populusque Romanus",
ie "The Senate and People of Rome.")
tenuous

Extremely tenuous!

link to "Pontius Pilate's Bodyguard"

Not at all !

Old Ponty was a Roman geezer, wasn't he ?

I know he was born in Embra New Town or somewhere like that,
OK it might have been Wester Hailes, but his Old Man was one
of those "fasces" fellows from Rome.

Q. How come the city was never known as Reme ?
Did they toss a denarii to decide whose name went on the maps ?

(the Royal Scots,
oldest Infantry Regiment of the Line in the British Army)

Are they not a tank regiment now? An ex-neighbour of mine was sent to
Ir*q as part of the recent illegal invasion force and he was in a tank
(his mother reportedly said "can you imagine what it smells like in a
tank full of 18 year old boys?"). I'm pretty sure it is the Royal Scots
that he is in.

How the heck would I know ?

I just went raking on Google to find something to post (FGS) !

A W-S gets away with it all the time !!

Away and re-calculate your impending parachute and geezpeace !

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