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Old October 6th 09, 04:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
soarpilot
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Hi everyone,

I am a licensed glider pilot and will be pursuing my Single Engine
Land power license this upcoming year. I was wondering if anyone in
the group has gone from Glider License only to Single Engine Land
licensing? What were the requirements, etc? Do any of the hours
transfer to the requirement of SEL? Ease / difficulties to
transition? Comments and recommendations?

I am hoping to commit the first month of this upcoming summer to
getting the license, therefore will be looking for a school that "fast
tracks" so to speak. I may also be entertaining the thought of
selling my G102 later next year if anyone might show interest. (Yes,
the spiggot ADs have been done ... lol)

Tim

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Old October 6th 09, 04:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Smith
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soarpilot wrote:

I was wondering if anyone in the group has gone from Glider License
only to Single Engine Land licensing?


Yes.

Ease / difficulties to transition?


The first difficulty is to understand the concept of flying straight and
level and holding altitude. Once this step is mastered, then the next
challenge is to try to understand what the whole point of flying
straight and level is and fighting boredom.

Comments and recommendations?


Recommondation: Don't sell your glider too fast.
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Old October 6th 09, 04:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
rlovinggood
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I corrupted my "glider only" ticket about 15 years ago with a SEL
rating. As John Smith stated, don't sell your glider too fast. Heck,
don't sell it at all. I agree with John about learning to fly
straight and level, buy why do such a boring thing? Oh yea, stall
recovery. The instructor kept insisting on adding power. Power?
What the heck is that? And there's another item to learn: Fuel
quantity and how quickly it ain't there. I was used to glider flights
of several hours in length and about forgot the little Cezzna 150/152
might get thirsty before I was ready to quit flying. Luckily, I got
back on the ground before the engine coughed or became silent.

They cost so much to fly now that about the only time I fly an
airplane, it's every two years and with an instructor when I'm doing a
Flight Review.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
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Old October 6th 09, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
bildan
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On Oct 6, 9:54*am, rlovinggood wrote:
I corrupted my "glider only" ticket about 15 years ago with a SEL
rating. *As John Smith stated, don't sell your glider too fast. *Heck,
don't sell it at all. *I agree with John about learning to fly
straight and level, buy why do such a boring thing? *Oh yea, stall
recovery. *The instructor kept insisting on adding power. *Power?
What the heck is that? *And there's another item to learn: *Fuel
quantity and how quickly it ain't there. *I was used to glider flights
of several hours in length and about forgot the little Cezzna 150/152
might get thirsty before I was ready to quit flying. *Luckily, I got
back on the ground before the engine coughed or became silent.

They cost so much to fly now that about the only time I fly an
airplane, it's every two years and with an instructor when I'm doing a
Flight Review.

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA


It'll also be hard to explain why you landed a Cessna on the infield
grass instead of going around when someone taxied onto your runway.
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Old October 6th 09, 05:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
rlovinggood
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Bill,

Or sitting in the Cezzna on the runway, waiting for the towplane to
pull out in front of you...


Ray
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Old October 6th 09, 06:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jcarlyle
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What the heck is a "Cezzna"? Is that spelling analogous to "****a"?

-John

On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, rlovinggood wrote:
Or sitting in the Cezzna on the runway, waiting for the towplane to
pull out in front of you...

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Old October 6th 09, 06:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
JC
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Power planes do have a purpose in life and that is to tow gliders! It
īs actually even kind of fun and you donīt have to pay to burn gas..
I donīt know how it works in the US but here you only need to do half
the hours (20) if you already have a glider licence.

Regards,

Juan Carlos
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Old October 6th 09, 06:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tim Taylor
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On Oct 6, 11:02*am, jcarlyle wrote:
What the heck is a "Cezzna"? Is that spelling analogous to "****a"?

-John

On Oct 6, 12:48 pm, rlovinggood wrote:



Or sitting in the Cezzna on the runway, waiting for the towplane to
pull out in front of you...


http://www.soaravenal.com/diamond.htm

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Old October 6th 09, 06:18 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tony[_5_]
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On Oct 6, 10:25*am, soarpilot wrote:
Hi everyone,

I am a licensed glider pilot and will be pursuing my Single Engine
Land power license this upcoming year. *I was wondering if anyone in
the group has gone from Glider License only to Single Engine Land
licensing? *What were the requirements, etc? *Do any of the hours
transfer to the requirement of SEL? *Ease / difficulties to
transition? *Comments and recommendations?

I am hoping to commit the first month of this upcoming summer to
getting the license, therefore will be looking for a school that "fast
tracks" so to speak. *I may also be entertaining the thought of
selling my G102 later next year if anyone might show interest. *(Yes,
the spiggot ADs have been done ... lol)

Tim


The requirements are spelled out in Part 61 of the FARs. In gliding
there are lower requirements to get your "add on" if you already have
powered flight experience. This does not work the other way around,
meaning you will need to meet pretty much all of the same requirements
as if you were an ab initio student. The only "discount" that i can
see is that you can use 10 hours of your glider flight time towards
the 40 hour requirement. You still would need 20 hours of instruction
and 10 hours of solo (Minimum!) and meet all the other requirements to
qualify for the checkride.

Straight and Level will be a challenge, as will Taxiing (unless you
fly a motorglider). There may be more emphasis on radio communication
that what you have experienced in glider flying. You probably won't
have any issues with power off landings, especially if you trained in
a Schweizer 2 seater. A Cessna 172 at idle only glides a bit worse
than a 2-22

I went from airplanes to gliders but still love flying airplanes when
i have students to instruct, or want to get somewhere semi-reliably,
or have an otherwise fun mission, but if I were you I wouldn't sell
your glider anytime soon, either.

Tony
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Old October 6th 09, 06:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Paul Remde
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Hi Tim,

About 15 years ago I did the same thing. I had my Private Pilot Glider
license and went to work on getting my Single Engine Airplane rating. All
the information I found indicated that none of the hours or flights logged
in gliders could apply toward my power rating. However, my power instructor
stated many times that my experience in gliders made me a very fast learner
in power-planes. He sent me solo at the very minimum required number of
hours (8?). It was a very windy day with a strong cross-wind. One of the
other instructors questioned his decision to send a student solo on such a
windy day. He said "he's a glider pilot" and the other instructor said,
"Oh, that makes sense, glider pilots can handle a little cross-wind." I
found it very easy to fly the plane. It was a Cessna 150. My experience
flying with the flaps on the 150 made it easy to transition to a Schweizer
1-35c which had flaps only for glidepath control.

Regrettably, I never did complete my instruction and get the power license.
I wish I had. I did enjoy it. But I enjoy flying gliders much more. I put
the money into buying into a glider instead of power lessons. Someday I
will probably go back and get my power license. But for now I have so
little time to fly that I want to put all of it in gliders.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde

"soarpilot" wrote in message
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Hi everyone,

I am a licensed glider pilot and will be pursuing my Single Engine
Land power license this upcoming year. I was wondering if anyone in
the group has gone from Glider License only to Single Engine Land
licensing? What were the requirements, etc? Do any of the hours
transfer to the requirement of SEL? Ease / difficulties to
transition? Comments and recommendations?

I am hoping to commit the first month of this upcoming summer to
getting the license, therefore will be looking for a school that "fast
tracks" so to speak. I may also be entertaining the thought of
selling my G102 later next year if anyone might show interest. (Yes,
the spiggot ADs have been done ... lol)

Tim


 




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