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Somebody who knows nothing here :-) I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime cruise Do they constantly have early warning aircraft aloft? If something untoward happens how long would it take to be fully battle ready? |
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roball- I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime
cruise Do they constantly have early warning aircraft aloft? If something untoward happens how long would it take to be fully battle ready? BRBR We stood alert all the time when at sea, normally alert 15 but sometimes alert 5(airborne in that time frame). Ship was always 'ready', cats with steam, etc. E-2 and other assets also stood alert all the time. If in a fairly benign envirnment, I'd say about 15-30 minutes. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 21:22:21 +1200, "rob" wrote:
I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime cruise What kind of cruise? You mean deployment? Or training cruise? Or Tiger Cruise? Or stateside going-from-here-to-there cruise? They might not even have any aircraft aboard, depending on the circumstance. -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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Andrew C. Toppan wrote: I was wondering how alert a carrier is during a normal peacetime cruise What kind of cruise? You mean deployment? Or training cruise? Or Tiger Cruise? Or stateside going-from-here-to-there cruise? They might not even have any aircraft aboard, depending on the circumstance. In Navy parlance (at least CV/CVN) a "cruise" means a 6 or 6+ month deployment. Training deployments are not called "cruises" (at least not by people in the Navy); they are called "work-ups"...and there is ALWAYS at least some aircraft aboard (minimum 2-3 helos) I don't think anybody interprets a tiger cruise as a cruise, although they very often are at the tale end of real cruises (in the Pac fleet, on return from a real cruise and coming aboard at Hawaii). To answer the original poster; Even in peace time, a carrier and it's CVW can achieve war time footing very quickly even in peace time. All it takes is moving the missiles, bombs, ammo, and torpedos up the weapons elevators and getting them loaded. In an HS example (which is all I can speak competently about), we're talking maybe 2-3 hours to get the torps and depth charges up to the flight deck and loaded and maybe 30-45 minutes to get the door guns up and loaded. --Mike |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 01:39:06 GMT, Michael Wise wrote:
In Navy parlance (at least CV/CVN) a "cruise" means a 6 or 6+ month deployment. Since he said it was a newbie question, I figured it was a more generic definition of "cruise", not the Navy's specific (and somewhat obscure) version. -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote:
Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on. That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of what is correct? -- Andrew Toppan --- --- "I speak only for myself" "Haze Gray & Underway" - Naval History, DANFS, World Navies Today, Photo Features, Military FAQs, and more - http://www.hazegray.org/ |
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![]() "Clark" wrote in message ... Andrew C. Toppan wrote in : On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote: Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on. That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of what is correct? It has nothing to do with my wants, it has to do with your error. To wit: Mr. Wise correctly noted there will always be aircraft on a carrier. A more accurate statement is that there is *usually* aircraft on a carrier. Larry AECS (AW/SW/MTS) USN 'Retired' 20 years if gettin 'em off the pointy end AND safely home again! |
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Clark wrote in
: Andrew C. Toppan wrote in : On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote: Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on. That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of what is correct? It has nothing to do with my wants, it has to do with your error. To wit: Mr. Wise correctly noted there will always be aircraft on a carrier. You neglected to note the error of your comment, much less accept the correction. In short, you *are* wrong, twice now. In my experience of serving on a carrier, there were NOT always aircraft aboard. I don't recall ever pulling into our home port with embarked a/c, and there were a couple of times when we went almost 24 hrs unadorned with flying machines of any type when we were close to home. What say, Pechs? We were there at the same time - CV-41. |
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![]() "Dave in San diego" wrote in message . .. Clark wrote in : Andrew C. Toppan wrote in : On 15 Sep 2004 03:11:07 GMT, Clark wrote: Wah, Wah, Wah. When you are wrong, admit it and move on. That would be fine if I was wrong. I gave a reasonable and correct answer - just not the one YOU wanted. Why are you the arbiter of what is correct? It has nothing to do with my wants, it has to do with your error. To wit: Mr. Wise correctly noted there will always be aircraft on a carrier. You neglected to note the error of your comment, much less accept the correction. In short, you *are* wrong, twice now. In my experience of serving on a carrier, there were NOT always aircraft aboard. Agreed. In fact, occasionally the flight deck is packed with POV's for a *special transit*. POV's are more commonly known as automobiles for those of you folks not used to Navy jargon. :-)) Larry AECS (AW/SW/MTS) USN 'Usta Be' |
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