Apis and Viva production acquired by Yuneec aircraft, Shanghai

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...neec.html?ref=

On Jul 20, 1:02*pm, cernauta wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...-ravyuneec.htm...

The article vaguely states Yuneec has acquired the designs.
I'm guessing this is a design license, not production ?
I'll ask them when I see them at Oshkosh next week...

Best Regards, Dave

On Jul 21, 4:24*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Jul 20, 1:02*pm, cernauta wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...-ravyuneec.htm...

The article vaguely states Yuneec has acquired the designs.
I'm guessing this is a design license, not production ?
I'll ask them when I see them at Oshkosh next week...

Best Regards, Dave

see if they have a smallish sized motor and prop that could fit into
the engine bay in my Apis-13, I retro-fitted the compartment a few
years ago but never added an engine. My thought was an electric
sustainer.

Thanks,
Brad

On Jul 21, 10:08*am, Brad wrote:
On Jul 21, 4:24*am, Dave Nadler wrote:

On Jul 20, 1:02*pm, cernauta wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...-ravyuneec.htm....

The article vaguely states Yuneec has acquired the designs.
I'm guessing this is a design license, not production ?
I'll ask them when I see them at Oshkosh next week...

Best Regards, Dave

see if they have a smallish sized motor and prop that could fit into
the engine bay in my Apis-13, I retro-fitted the compartment a few
years ago but never added an engine. My thought was an electric
sustainer.

Thanks,
Brad

Hi Brad - Yuneec has a wide range of motors, controllers, and props
(they come from model aircraft world). Your problem will be the
batteries...
See ya, Dave

On Jul 21, 9:52*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Jul 21, 10:08*am, Brad wrote:





On Jul 21, 4:24*am, Dave Nadler wrote:

On Jul 20, 1:02*pm, cernauta wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...-ravyuneec.htm...

The article vaguely states Yuneec has acquired the designs.
I'm guessing this is a design license, not production ?
I'll ask them when I see them at Oshkosh next week...

Best Regards, Dave

see if they have a smallish sized motor and prop that could fit into
the engine bay in my Apis-13, I retro-fitted the compartment a few
years ago but never added an engine. My thought was an electric
sustainer.

Thanks,
Brad

Hi Brad - Yuneec has a wide range of motors, controllers, and props
(they come from model aircraft world). Your problem will be the
batteries...
See ya, Dave

yup, it's always the batteries...................heavy and expensive?

Brad

Originally Posted by cernauta

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...neec.html?ref=

Sounds good! I'm positive Thailand may get glidng going if Yuneec did this, because I browsed some Thai PPG forums and fansites, and there were a lot of hype on Yuneec's PPG and were talking about their PPG being sold here.

Gotta get training first, THEN my own Apis!

I'm seriously contemplating putting Yuneec's 20 KW (27 hp) motor and
about 4 KWh of battery into my Apis M. It seems to me that about 8
KWh would be ideal for my "mission", but that may be too heavy. We'll
see. Performance should be about equivalent to an Apis Bee (Hirth
F33) but without most of the density altitude and in-flight (high
altitude) startup issues. I also modified my M (15m) fuselage to
accommodate the Bee mast and engine, but then held off when the
(Yuneec) electric option started looking real.

I'll be talking to all the key players next week at Oshkosh. If
things go well (i.e. pricing is acceptable), I anticipate placing an
order for at least the motor, controller and a single battery pack (2
KWh) to support some integration and ground testing as soon as they
can deliver.

I'm also puzzled about the Apis design going to Yuneec. I haven't
seen/heard anything from Pipistrel, but I'll be chasing that question,
and visiting Slovenia, this fall.

On Jul 21, 9:52*am, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Jul 21, 10:08*am, Brad wrote:



On Jul 21, 4:24*am, Dave Nadler wrote:

On Jul 20, 1:02*pm, cernauta wrote:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/bu...-ravyuneec.htm...

The article vaguely states Yuneec has acquired the designs.
I'm guessing this is a design license, not production ?
I'll ask them when I see them at Oshkosh next week...

Dave,

On a closely related subject, I am interested in any tilt-up self-
launch implementations that close the main engine bay doors at the end
of the mast extract cycle and then somehow reopen the doors to allow
retraction. As I recall, the Antares does that, but Dick Vangrunsven
(reasonably close to me) couldn't tell me how his did it. The two
choices seem to be (1) electric actuators, or (2) some sort of monkey-
motion mechanical arrangement.

Can you tell me/us how the Antares does it?

Thanks,

On Jul 21, 7:16*pm, EvValentin808
wrote:
Between:

Schleicher (small lever underneath panel between legs)

Shempp-Hirth (slider knob on cockpit wall)

Glaser-Dirks/DG (large white push-pull knob)

Pipistrel (rotating knob(Rotax version), or rotating dial(electro))

Albastar (large lever on left-side of cockpit)

TeST (rotating lever on control stick)

Other(please list)

--
EvValentin808

What is this 20 questions? You've been here on r.a.s. shotgunning off
these questions one after the other. What is the point to all this?
Who cares what one glider or motor glider has for a throttle control
or many of other specific little questions, you pick the overall
package and there are things orders of magnitude more important than
this to worry about if you are a serious purchaser.

You have asked questions before about learning to fly and you did not
reply to questions from other people about where you are located. So
can you provide some more information about yourself (or please stop
trolling though r.a.s with these questions). Where are you located? Do
you have a glider or pilots certificate? How much glider or other
flight experience? What is the point of these specific questions? What
real world purchase decision are you trying to make? (there may be
specific type motorglider groups you should talking to if at all
serious about a motorglider).

Darryl

On Jul 22, 1:11*am, Bob Luten wrote:
....
I'm also puzzled about the Apis design going to Yuneec. *I haven't
seen/heard anything from Pipistrel, but I'll be chasing that question,
and visiting Slovenia, this fall.

That's a different Apis. Astute observers have noticed several (!)
different designs that look, ahem, remarkably similar. Some even
with the same name. Long tale with lawyers involved...

Stop by and say hello at Oshkosh,
Best Regards, Dave