Requesting Flight Following from ground control

I just learned recently that this was possible at my little airport,
Hawthorne CA (KHHR). Presumably they get a squawk for you from SoCal and
arrange your radar coverage. Couple questions--

1. What is the phraseology of the request to ground?

--I'm guessing it's just "ground, cessna 1234 can you arrange flight
following to xxx via y and z"

2. At what point would you contact SoCal, and what would your initial
callup be? I assume you don't "request" FF at that point since it's already
been arranged, but I can't figure out what's best. Would you just report in
as you would if you were being handed off to a tower or tracon controller?

You would do #1 as you suggested. Then when you are given permission for
frequency change from the tower, open your flight plan with your local FSS,
then check in with SoCal with current position and altitude.
They do this out of Sacramento Executive also.

Have a great flight,
David Smith

"Yossarian" wrote in message
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I just learned recently that this was possible at my little airport,
Hawthorne CA (KHHR). Presumably they get a squawk for you from SoCal and
arrange your radar coverage. Couple questions--

1. What is the phraseology of the request to ground?

--I'm guessing it's just "ground, cessna 1234 can you arrange
flight
following to xxx via y and z"

2. At what point would you contact SoCal, and what would your initial
callup be? I assume you don't "request" FF at that point since it's
already
been arranged, but I can't figure out what's best. Would you just report
in
as you would if you were being handed off to a tower or tracon controller?

Yossarian ) wrote:

I just learned recently that this was possible at my little airport,
Hawthorne CA (KHHR). Presumably they get a squawk for you from SoCal and
arrange your radar coverage. Couple questions--

1. What is the phraseology of the request to ground?

--I'm guessing it's just "ground, cessna 1234 can you arrange flight
following to xxx via y and z"

I use: "Ground (or clearance, if applicable), Cessna XXX, VFR to Catalina
Island at six thousand five hundred, with Alpha (current ATIS), request
flight following."

At my class C airport in central NY, I had asked the controller about the
need to request FF and he told me that they will always coordinate FF.
Thus, it is redundant to ask for it here. However, at unfamiliar airports
I will always tag on the request as above.


2. At what point would you contact SoCal, and what would your initial
callup be?

When told by tower to switch. Then, I use the callup, "SoCal Approach,
Cessna XXX, one thousand four hundred (whatever the current altitude),
climbing six thousand five hundred (whatever your requested altitude),
runway heading (or whatever tower's assigned departure heading was).



--
Peter