Surecheck TrafficScope Pirep?

I cancelled my previous order for their TPAS 100 after I heard the terrible
reviews from the newsgroups and some aviation publications. Through a Google
search I was only able to find one guy's [really short] review which was
positive.

Anyone care to share what they heard or experienced with the TrafficScope?

Marco



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I got one at EAA this year and it works great. The altitude
information is the most useful of the two aspects. The range and
altitude always seem to be right on with what ATC tells me, so as far
as accuracy it does what they say it should do. I think I have the
vrx model which is the one with altitude, the other one is called the
vr I think and does not have altitude but costs like half as much too.
I can't imagine not having at least the altitude to know how to avoid
other aircraft, which this thing does quite nicely. I am going to have
it installed next month in my panel when it goes in for an annual.

Happy Flying!





"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message ...
I cancelled my previous order for their TPAS 100 after I heard the terrible
reviews from the newsgroups and some aviation publications. Through a Google
search I was only able to find one guy's [really short] review which was
positive.

Anyone care to share what they heard or experienced with the TrafficScope?

Marco



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Thanks for the pirep. Sound like Surecheck got their act together and built
upon what they learned from the RX series. It looks like the new system will
give virtually the same info as TIS via Garmin's 330--at a bargain price.
Not that the 330 isn't a bargain already...

Now where's my piggybank...

Marco

"BHelman" wrote in message
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I got one at EAA this year and it works great. The altitude
information is the most useful of the two aspects. The range and
altitude always seem to be right on with what ATC tells me, so as far
as accuracy it does what they say it should do. I think I have the
vrx model which is the one with altitude, the other one is called the
vr I think and does not have altitude but costs like half as much too.
I can't imagine not having at least the altitude to know how to avoid
other aircraft, which this thing does quite nicely. I am going to have
it installed next month in my panel when it goes in for an annual.

Happy Flying!





"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
...
I cancelled my previous order for their TPAS 100 after I heard the
terrible
reviews from the newsgroups and some aviation publications. Through a
Google
search I was only able to find one guy's [really short] review which was
positive.

Anyone care to share what they heard or experienced with the
TrafficScope?

Marco



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"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
...
Thanks for the pirep. Sound like Surecheck got their act together and
built
upon what they learned from the RX series. It looks like the new system
will
give virtually the same info as TIS via Garmin's 330--at a bargain price.
Not that the 330 isn't a bargain already...

It isn't within an order of magnitude of the TIS in its utility. It doesn't
give you azimuthal information.

It looks like Surecheck has used directionality to improve the selectivity
of the unit to distinguish between contacts that are, say, 5000 ft away
vertically and 5000 ft away horizontally. I'm sure that will improve it
over the previous version.

But knowing there is a threat within some range is nothing like being told
*where* to look to find it!

Julian Scarfe

I looked into the TIS system, but the pricetag and service holes
turned me off. Knowing my luck I would be on a collision course just
as it popped up and said "OUT OF SERVICE AREA" Maybe another 10
years or so will bring better improvements in service and drive the
price down to an affordable amount.





"Julian Scarfe" wrote in message ...
"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message
...
Thanks for the pirep. Sound like Surecheck got their act together and
built
upon what they learned from the RX series. It looks like the new system
will
give virtually the same info as TIS via Garmin's 330--at a bargain price.
Not that the 330 isn't a bargain already...

It isn't within an order of magnitude of the TIS in its utility. It doesn't
give you azimuthal information.

It looks like Surecheck has used directionality to improve the selectivity
of the unit to distinguish between contacts that are, say, 5000 ft away
vertically and 5000 ft away horizontally. I'm sure that will improve it
over the previous version.

But knowing there is a threat within some range is nothing like being told
*where* to look to find it!

Julian Scarfe

Marco,

We have the Monroy ATD200 in our Tobago - works great! However, the new
generation Surecheck units (something vr) look interesting.
--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Julian,

But knowing there is a threat within some range is nothing like being told
*where* to look to find it!


Have you actually flown with a unit that doesn't give azimuth info (and
neither altitude, except for antenna angle prohibiting extremes)? If yes, I
would be interested in how you arrive at that opinion. If not, you should do
it, since you are in for a very big surprise! Azimuth is nowhere near worth
a factor 10 to 20 in price, in my _experience_.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Thanks. The consensus is that the Monroy was better than the Surecheck TPAS.
I wouls be curious to see if the Monroy still holds up to the Traffic Scope.
Be sure to post a review if you ever get a chance to fly with the new
SureCheck box.

Marco

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Marco,

We have the Monroy ATD200 in our Tobago - works great! However, the new
generation Surecheck units (something vr) look interesting.
--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)




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I don't think you can compare the Monroy to the traffic scope for
function, any more than an ADF can really be compared to GPS. The
Monroy doesn't account for altitude, so when you have a 737 flying
overhead thousands of feet up the Monroy would be screaming bloody
murder. I think they mention altitude on their web, but in talking to
them and using it, they try to rely on somehow the signal being
blocked to give only aircraft within an altitude band. I never saw
this "blockage" take place. But, with the traffic scope you know
exactly how high above or below you they are, and can select through
modes to pin point an altitude band or range. I think the traffic
scope giving you the actual altitude of the other aircraft is the way
to go, since the concept of avoiding someone can be made by altitude
separation, even if you never see the other aircraft. Obviously the
next best thing would be directional azimuth, but the lowest priced
system I have seen on the market is near or at 5 figures.

"Marco Leon" mleon(at)optonline.net wrote in message ...
Thanks. The consensus is that the Monroy was better than the Surecheck TPAS.
I wouls be curious to see if the Monroy still holds up to the Traffic Scope.
Be sure to post a review if you ever get a chance to fly with the new
SureCheck box.

Marco

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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Marco,

We have the Monroy ATD200 in our Tobago - works great! However, the new
generation Surecheck units (something vr) look interesting.
--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)




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BHelman,

The
Monroy doesn't account for altitude, so when you have a 737 flying
overhead thousands of feet up the Monroy would be screaming bloody
murder.


Clearly, you haven't flown with the unit. This statement couldn't be
more wrong. The antenna characteristics are such that traffic being
more than 1500 or 2000 feet different in altitude will not be
annunciated. Altitude has NEVER be a problem for us in actual
operation. Whenever you get a warning for traffic close enough to be
visible, when scanning outside in a sensible range, you'll spot that
traffic, on our experience. Thus, I have looked at the vrx with
interest from a gadget freak standpoint, but I don't think the altitude
sensing would be worth that much money to me. I would, however, love to
see the vr in action.

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)