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Old November 8th 03, 03:10 AM
G.R. Patterson III
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My mother remembers when Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic. It wasn't too long
after that when she last rode in a light aircraft. She regards a 19 passenger
turbo-prop as "one of those little planes". Before today, I regarded the odds of
her climbing into my Maule right up there with the chances of sprouting wings
and flying around the room.

Guess it just takes the right impetus. She signed up for a tour of Cape May, NJ.
Got there allright. Then she started trying to figure out how she could make the
100 miles to my house after the tour was over. When I pointed out that her
options were a four-and-a-half-hour bus ride, plus a 45 minute ride from the
terminal, an eight-hour-plus train ride with four changes, or a 52 minute ride
in the Maule, she decided that the plane looked a lot bigger than she had
thought originally.

I got off the ground a few minutes later than planned, but there was a tailwind,
so I made it to Cape May on time. Nobody answered me on the Unicom, so I picked
one of the runways and plunked down. Then I headed for the terminal, pulled up,
and shut down. Nobody there. Closed for the season. Cranked up again and headed
down the line. I was pulling into the next building that looked like an FBO,
when the radio crackled to life. "Maule, your party is down here at Classic
Air." With a heartfelt "Thank you", I waddled down that way and shut down in
front of the building.

I suggested that Mama use the facilities before we left and had a chat with the
line man while loading her luggage. He has a Maule M-4 he's working on, and we
swapped stories a bit. Then it was time to load Mama.

For those who haven't tried the exercise, getting in a Maule is a bit of work.
Short, chubby, old women are not well suited to this. On the second attempt,
Mama managed to get her right foot up on the step. Grabbing hold of the bar
across the windshield was out of the question, but she did manage to get a good
grip on the door frame. After that, it was a matter of only about three tries
before she was able to crawl into the seat.

I climbed in the other side, got her seat belt fastened, and went over the
passenger briefing (which takes about 5 seconds in a Maule). When I offered her
a headset, she looked aghast and told me she'd just turn her hearing aid down.
She didn't feel the need to talk. Got started and headed for the runway.

Cape May was still under a grey 2500' overcast, but twenty miles north, the sun
was shining. We stayed at 1,000' to 1,300' up the coast. I had just come down
that way, so I knew the turbulence wasn't too bad down there. Gave her a view
of the Atlantic City casinos as we passed Bader. We stayed east of the McGuire
alert zone, but that still pulled us away from the coast a bit, and Mama started
checking her watch. I'm starting to worry about airsickness and such, but I
found out later that she just needed a bathroom. Already.

So, feeling a little pressure to get her down, I entered the downwind for 06 at
Old Bridge. Wind was from 360 at better than ten knots at pattern altitude, and
I forgot to allow for the fact that this would produce a short base leg. As soon
as I leveled off on base, it was obvious I was high, so I dumped in full flaps.
As soon as I turned final, I was slipping the plane for all it was worth. At
first, I was worried about what Mama would think - lots of people don't like
slips. Mama didn't bat an eye. I realized later that slipping the plane in would
have been SOP back in the 30s when she last flew in one of these things. Or
maybe it was just hydraulic pressure.

Anyway, we touched down halfway down the field and made the next-to-last turn
off. I pulled up at the FBO to let Mama out. Whoo-boy! If you thought it was a
problem getting her into the plane, you should've seen the gyrations needed to
get her out! If I hadn't told her there was a bathroom behind the FBO door, we
might still be there!

On the way home, she thanked me for the "adventure". Maybe I can bribe my sister
into finding out what she really thinks. On second thought, maybe I'd best not
do that.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money prolonging
the problem.
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Old November 8th 03, 01:17 PM
Harry Gordon
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George,

Very interesting :-) !. My wife's mother lives near by and we want to take
her flying but she is scared to death of flying. Before her husband died,
they flew once in a while with commercial airlines and apparently she hung
on to him during the entire trip. I want to take her up in the 172. Getting
her in/out shouldn't be a problem...it's the in between time (from takeoff
to landing) that I am concerned about. She is in her '80s. The only
motivation for the flight is to have some fun. Any suggestions you or
someone else might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the
entertaining posting.

Harry
PP-ASEL

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...
My mother remembers when Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic. It wasn't too

long
after that when she last rode in a light aircraft. She regards a 19

passenger
turbo-prop as "one of those little planes". Before today, I regarded the

odds of
her climbing into my Maule right up there with the chances of sprouting

wings
and flying around the room.

Guess it just takes the right impetus. She signed up for a tour of Cape

May, NJ.
Got there allright. Then she started trying to figure out how she could

make the
100 miles to my house after the tour was over. When I pointed out that her
options were a four-and-a-half-hour bus ride, plus a 45 minute ride from

the
terminal, an eight-hour-plus train ride with four changes, or a 52 minute

ride
in the Maule, she decided that the plane looked a lot bigger than she had
thought originally.

I got off the ground a few minutes later than planned, but there was a

tailwind,
so I made it to Cape May on time. Nobody answered me on the Unicom, so I

picked
one of the runways and plunked down. Then I headed for the terminal,

pulled up,
and shut down. Nobody there. Closed for the season. Cranked up again and

headed
down the line. I was pulling into the next building that looked like an

FBO,
when the radio crackled to life. "Maule, your party is down here at

Classic
Air." With a heartfelt "Thank you", I waddled down that way and shut down

in
front of the building.

I suggested that Mama use the facilities before we left and had a chat

with the
line man while loading her luggage. He has a Maule M-4 he's working on,

and we
swapped stories a bit. Then it was time to load Mama.

For those who haven't tried the exercise, getting in a Maule is a bit of

work.
Short, chubby, old women are not well suited to this. On the second

attempt,
Mama managed to get her right foot up on the step. Grabbing hold of the

bar
across the windshield was out of the question, but she did manage to get a

good
grip on the door frame. After that, it was a matter of only about three

tries
before she was able to crawl into the seat.

I climbed in the other side, got her seat belt fastened, and went over the
passenger briefing (which takes about 5 seconds in a Maule). When I

offered her
a headset, she looked aghast and told me she'd just turn her hearing aid

down.
She didn't feel the need to talk. Got started and headed for the runway.

Cape May was still under a grey 2500' overcast, but twenty miles north,

the sun
was shining. We stayed at 1,000' to 1,300' up the coast. I had just come

down
that way, so I knew the turbulence wasn't too bad down there. Gave her a

view
of the Atlantic City casinos as we passed Bader. We stayed east of the

McGuire
alert zone, but that still pulled us away from the coast a bit, and Mama

started
checking her watch. I'm starting to worry about airsickness and such, but

I
found out later that she just needed a bathroom. Already.

So, feeling a little pressure to get her down, I entered the downwind for

06 at
Old Bridge. Wind was from 360 at better than ten knots at pattern

altitude, and
I forgot to allow for the fact that this would produce a short base leg.

As soon
as I leveled off on base, it was obvious I was high, so I dumped in full

flaps.
As soon as I turned final, I was slipping the plane for all it was worth.

At
first, I was worried about what Mama would think - lots of people don't

like
slips. Mama didn't bat an eye. I realized later that slipping the plane in

would
have been SOP back in the 30s when she last flew in one of these things.

Or
maybe it was just hydraulic pressure.

Anyway, we touched down halfway down the field and made the next-to-last

turn
off. I pulled up at the FBO to let Mama out. Whoo-boy! If you thought it

was a
problem getting her into the plane, you should've seen the gyrations

needed to
get her out! If I hadn't told her there was a bathroom behind the FBO

door, we
might still be there!

On the way home, she thanked me for the "adventure". Maybe I can bribe my

sister
into finding out what she really thinks. On second thought, maybe I'd best

not
do that.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money

prolonging
the problem.



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Old November 8th 03, 01:40 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:17:47 GMT, "Harry Gordon"
wrote in Message-Id:
:

The only
motivation for the flight is to have some fun. Any suggestions you or
someone else might have would be greatly appreciated.


Consider a destination that interests her. Perhaps a visit with
grandchildren or family friends. It doesn't sound like the flight is
going to be nearly as much fun for her as it will be for you.


  #4  
Old November 8th 03, 01:58 PM
Harry Gordon
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"Larry Dighera" wrote
Consider a destination that interests her. Perhaps a visit with
grandchildren or family friends. It doesn't sound like the flight is
going to be nearly as much fun for her as it will be for you.


Yea, and that is what concerns me, Larry. Unfortunately, she doesn't have
any friends or other family members close enough to fly too. This has the
potential of being a real challenge that if I am able to get her to go, I
may regret having done so for a long time :-(.

Harry



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Old November 8th 03, 02:33 PM
Jay Honeck
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On the way home, she thanked me for the "adventure". Maybe I can bribe my
sister
into finding out what she really thinks. On second thought, maybe I'd best

not
do that.


Great story, George -- congratulations! It's not always easy to convince
people that flying in a Spam Can is a good idea.

As a newly minted pilot I had the honor of flying my Mom into her home town
air strip. She arrived like the Queen of Sheba, and even wore headphones,
despite messing up her normally sacrosanct hair! Luckily, it was in a
Piper Cherokee 140 -- not the easiest plane to get into, but easier than a
Maule. (And she was pretty spry, for her age.)

Now that she's gone, it's one of my fondest memories.

On several occasions I've also had the privilege of flying my Mother-in-law,
which is more of a challenge since she's partially handicapped. She's
handled it like a trooper every time, however.

Enjoy them while they're with us, George...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 8th 03, 04:15 PM
EDR
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In article 197rb.146656$e01.504987@attbi_s02, Jay Honeck
wrote:

On several occasions I've also had the privilege of flying my Mother-in-law,
which is more of a challenge since she's partially handicapped. She's
handled it like a trooper every time, however.


Ater my father became confined to a wheelchair, I learned the best
airplane to fly him around in was a Cherokee Six. All he had to do was
stand up with his back to the airplane at the back door and sit down on
the rear seat by the door.
Prior to that, I experienced similar problems as George describe,
getting him into a C172 to take him on flyouts to a pheasant farm for
lunch. Another trip for $100 hamburgers, we took a Rockwell 112. He had
to scoot up the wingwalk backwards, turn around, then scoot forward
through the door to sit on the seat.
(Time to seriously start looking for that Six, Jay!)
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Old November 9th 03, 01:51 AM
Jay Honeck
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(Time to seriously start looking for that Six, Jay!)

Nah. If I had a Six I'd have no excuse NOT to take my mother-in-law
along...

{:-0
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old November 9th 03, 04:08 AM
Jim Fisher
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
On the way home, she thanked me for the "adventure". Maybe I can bribe my

sister
into finding out what she really thinks. On second thought, maybe I'd best

not
do that.


Yeah, some things are better left unasked.

I do believe that is the longest post you've ever written, George, and very
much worth reading.

Thanks for sharing.

--
Jim Fisher


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Old November 9th 03, 06:19 AM
Big John
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Harry

My mother flew with me only once (in 1945). Every time we made a turn
she would climb up on the high side of the cockpit using the steel
frame of the fuselage.. We flew around Davenport, IA and looked at
where she lived, etc. 45-50 minutes.

In later years when all the old widows got together I would hear her
tell how she flew with me once and what a good pilot I (her son) was.

(I was a good pilot but she didn't know it G)

Get a good sunny day with no turbulence and take your MIL for a $100
brunch. If she drinks get her a martini G Do you have any children
she can shepherd and show them what to do in the bird and act like a
mother hen? All good to keep her from freezing up.

Best of luck with your MIL.

Big John.


N.B. While waiting in front of FBO for plane to get back another
private bird (Piper, T-craft, etc.???) taxied out and made a run up
right in front of us (20 or so away). He ran up downwind and the tail
came up and wind got it and bird turned over upside down right there
(where if I opened the car door I could touch. Didn't seem to bother
mother a bit. Probably had already convinced herself that she would
die if she went flying in one of those little birds even with her
son????



On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 13:17:47 GMT, "Harry Gordon"
wrote:

George,

Very interesting :-) !. My wife's mother lives near by and we want to take
her flying but she is scared to death of flying. Before her husband died,
they flew once in a while with commercial airlines and apparently she hung
on to him during the entire trip. I want to take her up in the 172. Getting
her in/out shouldn't be a problem...it's the in between time (from takeoff
to landing) that I am concerned about. She is in her '80s. The only
motivation for the flight is to have some fun. Any suggestions you or
someone else might have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the
entertaining posting.

Harry
PP-ASEL

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
...
My mother remembers when Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic. It wasn't too

long
after that when she last rode in a light aircraft. She regards a 19

passenger
turbo-prop as "one of those little planes". Before today, I regarded the

odds of
her climbing into my Maule right up there with the chances of sprouting

wings
and flying around the room.

Guess it just takes the right impetus. She signed up for a tour of Cape

May, NJ.
Got there allright. Then she started trying to figure out how she could

make the
100 miles to my house after the tour was over. When I pointed out that her
options were a four-and-a-half-hour bus ride, plus a 45 minute ride from

the
terminal, an eight-hour-plus train ride with four changes, or a 52 minute

ride
in the Maule, she decided that the plane looked a lot bigger than she had
thought originally.

I got off the ground a few minutes later than planned, but there was a

tailwind,
so I made it to Cape May on time. Nobody answered me on the Unicom, so I

picked
one of the runways and plunked down. Then I headed for the terminal,

pulled up,
and shut down. Nobody there. Closed for the season. Cranked up again and

headed
down the line. I was pulling into the next building that looked like an

FBO,
when the radio crackled to life. "Maule, your party is down here at

Classic
Air." With a heartfelt "Thank you", I waddled down that way and shut down

in
front of the building.

I suggested that Mama use the facilities before we left and had a chat

with the
line man while loading her luggage. He has a Maule M-4 he's working on,

and we
swapped stories a bit. Then it was time to load Mama.

For those who haven't tried the exercise, getting in a Maule is a bit of

work.
Short, chubby, old women are not well suited to this. On the second

attempt,
Mama managed to get her right foot up on the step. Grabbing hold of the

bar
across the windshield was out of the question, but she did manage to get a

good
grip on the door frame. After that, it was a matter of only about three

tries
before she was able to crawl into the seat.

I climbed in the other side, got her seat belt fastened, and went over the
passenger briefing (which takes about 5 seconds in a Maule). When I

offered her
a headset, she looked aghast and told me she'd just turn her hearing aid

down.
She didn't feel the need to talk. Got started and headed for the runway.

Cape May was still under a grey 2500' overcast, but twenty miles north,

the sun
was shining. We stayed at 1,000' to 1,300' up the coast. I had just come

down
that way, so I knew the turbulence wasn't too bad down there. Gave her a

view
of the Atlantic City casinos as we passed Bader. We stayed east of the

McGuire
alert zone, but that still pulled us away from the coast a bit, and Mama

started
checking her watch. I'm starting to worry about airsickness and such, but

I
found out later that she just needed a bathroom. Already.

So, feeling a little pressure to get her down, I entered the downwind for

06 at
Old Bridge. Wind was from 360 at better than ten knots at pattern

altitude, and
I forgot to allow for the fact that this would produce a short base leg.

As soon
as I leveled off on base, it was obvious I was high, so I dumped in full

flaps.
As soon as I turned final, I was slipping the plane for all it was worth.

At
first, I was worried about what Mama would think - lots of people don't

like
slips. Mama didn't bat an eye. I realized later that slipping the plane in

would
have been SOP back in the 30s when she last flew in one of these things.

Or
maybe it was just hydraulic pressure.

Anyway, we touched down halfway down the field and made the next-to-last

turn
off. I pulled up at the FBO to let Mama out. Whoo-boy! If you thought it

was a
problem getting her into the plane, you should've seen the gyrations

needed to
get her out! If I hadn't told her there was a bathroom behind the FBO

door, we
might still be there!

On the way home, she thanked me for the "adventure". Maybe I can bribe my

sister
into finding out what she really thinks. On second thought, maybe I'd best

not
do that.

George Patterson
If you're not part of the solution, you can make a lot of money

prolonging
the problem.



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Old November 9th 03, 04:43 PM
EDR
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In article i4hrb.149526$Fm2.132275@attbi_s04, Jay Honeck
wrote:

(Time to seriously start looking for that Six, Jay!)


Nah. If I had a Six I'd have no excuse NOT to take my mother-in-law
along... {:-0


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