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(copied from RAS) - amazing!
"keep our eyes moving and our head on a swivel" Subject: Motion Induced Blindness When driving keep your eyes moving, checking mirrors, looking to the left and right and this blinding affect is minimized. (If you don't believe those yellow dots are not disappearing, have someone stand by you and NOT stare at the green dot.) Motion Induced Blindness This is frightening! It works exactly like it says, and is one major reason people in cars can look right at you (when you're on a motorcycle or bicycle)---AND NOT SEE YOU. From a former Naval Aviator. This is a great illustration of what we were taught about scanning outside the cockpit when I went through training back in the '50s. We were told to scan the horizon for a short distance, stop momentarily, and repeat the process. I can remember being told why this was the most effective technique to locate other aircraft. It was emphasized (repeatedly) to NOT fix your gaze for more than a couple of seconds on any single object. The instructors, some of whom were WWII veterans with years of experience, instructed us to continually "keep our eyes moving and our head on a swivel" because this was the best way to survive, not only in combat, but from peacetime hazards (like a midair collision) as well. We basically had to take the advice on faith (until we could experience for ourselves) because the technology to demonstrate it didn't exist at that time. Click on the link below for a demonstration ... http://www.msf-usa.org/motion.html -- Duncan. |
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Dave Doe writes:
This is frightening! It works exactly like it says, and is one major reason people in cars can look right at you (when you're on a motorcycle or bicycle)---AND NOT SEE YOU. No, the two phenomena are totally unrelated. The demonstration shows the fatigue of the visual system (notably the retina) when presented with a constant, unchanging stimulus. However, this fatigue never occurs in ordinary life, because nobody stares carefully at a single spot without moving his eyes and without a change in the scene for thirty seconds at a time. It certainly never occurs while driving or operating a vehicle, and is hard to elicit under other than laboratory conditions. The reason drivers do not seem to see motorcycles or bicycles is very different. They actually _do_ see these things, but they unconsciously regard them as not important to their own safety, so they ignore them. They notice cars because collision with a car is potentially harmful, but not motorcycles or especially not bicycles because these are not potential "threats." It's a simple example of awareness being directed towards the things that are perceived as important. It has no connection to the visual fatigue described above at all. |
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On Apr 3, 6:09*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
The reason drivers do not seem to see motorcycles or bicycles is very different. They actually _do_ see these things, but they unconsciously regard them as not important to their own safety, so they ignore them. Wrong, and nonsensical. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentional_Blink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentional_shift http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_blindness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_perception ----- - gpsman |
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gpsman writes:
Wrong, and nonsensical. They see cars and obstacles, but not motorcycles and pedestrians. That's not because of any fatigue in the retina or elsewhere in the vision system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentional_Blink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentional_shift http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_blindness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_perception Ah yes, Wikipedia ... the final authority when it supports you, and amateur nonsense when it doesn't. |
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On Apr 7, 9:50*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
gpsman writes: Wrong, and nonsensical. They see cars and obstacles, but not motorcycles and pedestrians. Non sequitur. That's not because of any fatigue in the retina or elsewhere in the vision system. Straw man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inattentional_blindness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentional_Blink http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attentional_shift http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_blindness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_perception Ah yes, Wikipedia ... the final authority when it supports you, and amateur nonsense when it doesn't. Straw man. Your ignorance is willful. ----- - gpsman |
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gpsman writes:
Non sequitur. It is a rephrasing of my previous points. |
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