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All of this banter about classes, and what's fair or not for a class, leads me to a couple of questions. Now, please understand that I am not a competition pilot so forgive if I sound a bit naive. I have been doing a little online research but don't find a lot of information...or I'm looking in the wrong place!
First, what constitutes a good task? Is there an established set of criteria used when evaluating weather, site, and aircraft? Second, has there been any effort to programmatically "call" a task based on a set of criteria?...like the above mentioned factors. I don't believe you can substitute good human judgement with a set of executable instructions ...but it may be helpful to use technology to assist with task calling given what seems like a very complex set of variables. Who knows, maybe the task caller could do some sort of Monte Carlo simulations for a task, given all the variables, and have results showing the probability of success for a number of potential tasks! Any thoughts? How about references on task calling? Brad A. |
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On Nov 19, 9:17*pm, Brad Alston
wrote: All of this banter about classes, and what's fair or not for a class, leads me to a couple of questions. Now, please understand that I am not a competition pilot so forgive if I sound a bit naive. I have been doing a little online research but don't find a lot of information...or I'm looking in the wrong place! First, what constitutes a good task? Is there an established set of criteria used when evaluating weather, site, and aircraft? Second, has there been any effort to programmatically "call" a task based on a set of criteria?...like the above mentioned factors. I don't believe you can substitute good human judgement with a set of executable instructions ...but it may be helpful to use technology to assist with task calling given what seems like a very complex set of variables. Who knows, maybe the task caller could do some sort of Monte Carlo simulations for a task, given all the variables, and have results showing the probability of success for a number of potential tasks! Any thoughts? How about references on task calling? Brad A. -- Brad Alston There's lots of good advice in the appendix to US contest rules https://www.ssa.org/files/member/201...ss%20Rules.pdf start reading at page 26 The "guide to competition" https://www.ssa.org/files/member/SSA...ion%202011.pdf has good advice oriented towards the pilots, see p. 13 the safety checklist also has a few good tips https://www.ssa.org/files/member/Org...k%20Topics.pdf if the links don't work, this is all from the ssa webpage under rules and process John Cochrane |
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Thank you for the references John. After an evening of reading, I see the only real criteria for good task calling is that they are safe and fair.
Safety seems to be fairly easy to understand; things like reducing the risk for collision at the start, on course (around turnpoints and such), or at the finish of a task. In addition, providing adequate safe land-out opportunities, should the need arise, along the course line for the task. I would think everyone involved in a competition would be in agreement with having a safe task. So I've concluded, maybe incorrectly, that the issue raising most of the "stink" is all about what is a "fair" task. With the variety of sailplanes available (handicaps), variability of weather, pilot skill level, terrain, and etcetera, I can understand why there might be some difficulty with this aspect of tasking. I still think there may be a way to provide some sort of automated decision support for task calling...now to try and quantify those contributing factors! ![]() Anyone out there willing to share their opinion from an experience as to why they feel a particular task at a particular contest was safe AND fair? |
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