US Forces Just Dropped Their Largest Non-Nuclear Bomb for the First Time - US just dropped MOAB (Mother of all bombs) on ISIS Cave Complex in Afganistan-kNrvte2sqp4_xvid.avi (01/10)

On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dr...for-1794298289

Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
ISIS targets in Afghanistan. Nicknamed MOAB (short for “Mother of All Bombs”),
the weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in America’s arsenal. This is the
first time a MOAB has been used in combat.

Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
out ISIS tunnels in the Achin district of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province. The
network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
Command MC-130 aircraft and that the military is “currently assessing the
damage.”

What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
before Thursday’s attack in Afghanistan. However, the MOAB served as a weapon of
psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:

This story is developing, and we’ll update it as we learn new information. In
the meantime, don’t even bother hiding in a bunker. The MOAB is the best bunker
buster we’ve got.

Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
attack in Afghanistan at a press conference. Spicer didn’t provide any more
detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
about the bombing.



The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
surface before detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
penetrate, if I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dr...for-1794298289

Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
ISIS targets in Afghanistan. Nicknamed MOAB (short for “Mother of All Bombs”),
the weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in America’s arsenal. This is the
first time a MOAB has been used in combat.

Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
out ISIS tunnels in the Achin district of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province. The
network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
Command MC-130 aircraft and that the military is “currently assessing the
damage.”

What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
before Thursday’s attack in Afghanistan. However, the MOAB served as a weapon of
psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:

This story is developing, and we’ll update it as we learn new information. In
the meantime, don’t even bother hiding in a bunker. The MOAB is the best bunker
buster we’ve got.

Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
attack in Afghanistan at a press conference. Spicer didn’t provide any more
detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
about the bombing.



The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
surface before detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
penetrate, if I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.


http://www.ajc.com/news/local-milita...yCaraZNF4UOcK/





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"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
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The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second war,
was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand Slam was a
penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the surface before
detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not penetrate, if
I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.

I was wondering about that too. The Grand Slam needed a thick casing to
remain intact as it burrowed into the ground. Only about 40% of its
22,000-lb. weight was Torpex.

The Massive Ordnance Penetrator may weight 30,000 lbs., but it carries a
"mere" 5,300 lbs. of explosive.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massiv...nce_Penetrator

The MOAB has a thin casing and 18,700 lbs. of filler out of total weight of
22,600 lbs (82% HE), greater than the BLU-82's 75%.

The MOAB is designed for lateral blast, not deep penetration.

On 13 Apr 2017 14:23:28 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dr...for-1794298289

Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
ISIS targets in Afghanistan. Nicknamed MOAB (short for “Mother of All Bombs”),
the weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in America’s arsenal. This is the
first time a MOAB has been used in combat.

Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
out ISIS tunnels in the Achin district of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province. The
network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
Command MC-130 aircraft and that the military is “currently assessing the
damage.”

What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
before Thursday’s attack in Afghanistan. However, the MOAB served as a weapon of
psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:

This story is developing, and we’ll update it as we learn new information. In
the meantime, don’t even bother hiding in a bunker. The MOAB is the best bunker
buster we’ve got.

Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
attack in Afghanistan at a press conference. Spicer didn’t provide any more
detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
about the bombing.



The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
surface before detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
penetrate, if I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.


http://www.ajc.com/news/local-milita...yCaraZNF4UOcK/



Thanks, I appreciate the reply.

Aside from one being an air burst weapon and the other being a
penetrator, I am still curious about the advantages and why they would
use an air burst weapon against tunnels instead of a penetrator.

Further research revealed the USA has a device which is larger than
the MOAB, it is the GBU-57, a 30k lbs. penetrator. Capable of
penetrating 200 ft. of reinforced concrete, which is quite impressive.

http://newatlas.com/massive-ordnance...bu-57ab/20538/

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 14:23:28 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dr...for-1794298289

Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
ISIS targets in Afghanistan. Nicknamed MOAB (short for “Mother of All Bombs”),
the weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in America’s arsenal. This is the
first time a MOAB has been used in combat.

Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
out ISIS tunnels in the Achin district of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province. The
network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
Command MC-130 aircraft and that the military is “currently assessing the
damage.”

What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
before Thursday’s attack in Afghanistan. However, the MOAB served as a weapon of
psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:

This story is developing, and we’ll update it as we learn new information. In
the meantime, don’t even bother hiding in a bunker. The MOAB is the best bunker
buster we’ve got.

Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
attack in Afghanistan at a press conference. Spicer didn’t provide any more
detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
about the bombing.



The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
surface before detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
penetrate, if I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.


http://www.ajc.com/news/local-milita...yCaraZNF4UOcK/



Thanks, I appreciate the reply.

Aside from one being an air burst weapon and the other being a
penetrator, I am still curious about the advantages and why they would
use an air burst weapon against tunnels instead of a penetrator.

Further research revealed the USA has a device which is larger than
the MOAB, it is the GBU-57, a 30k lbs. penetrator. Capable of
penetrating 200 ft. of reinforced concrete, which is quite impressive.

http://newatlas.com/massive-ordnance...bu-57ab/20538/


http://www.businessinsider.com/moab-...ors_picks=true





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On 13 Apr 2017 14:45:23 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 14:23:28 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dr...for-1794298289

Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
ISIS targets in Afghanistan. Nicknamed MOAB (short for “Mother of All Bombs”),
the weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in America’s arsenal. This is the
first time a MOAB has been used in combat.

Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
out ISIS tunnels in the Achin district of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province. The
network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
Command MC-130 aircraft and that the military is “currently assessing the
damage.”

What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
before Thursday’s attack in Afghanistan. However, the MOAB served as a weapon of
psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:

This story is developing, and we’ll update it as we learn new information. In
the meantime, don’t even bother hiding in a bunker. The MOAB is the best bunker
buster we’ve got.

Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
attack in Afghanistan at a press conference. Spicer didn’t provide any more
detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
about the bombing.



The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
surface before detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
penetrate, if I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.


http://www.ajc.com/news/local-milita...yCaraZNF4UOcK/



Thanks, I appreciate the reply.

Aside from one being an air burst weapon and the other being a
penetrator, I am still curious about the advantages and why they would
use an air burst weapon against tunnels instead of a penetrator.

Further research revealed the USA has a device which is larger than
the MOAB, it is the GBU-57, a 30k lbs. penetrator. Capable of
penetrating 200 ft. of reinforced concrete, which is quite impressive.

http://newatlas.com/massive-ordnance...bu-57ab/20538/


http://www.businessinsider.com/moab-...ors_picks=true



Thanks, obviously it all depends upon the construction of the target.
I suppose open caves or mines would be susceptible to an air burst
weapon where a specifically constructed, underground bunker would
require a penetrator.

I appreciate the research you conducted.

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 22:18:44 +0000, Charles Lindbergh
wrote:

On 13 Apr 2017 14:45:23 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 14:23:28 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

In article , Charles Lindbergh
says...

On 13 Apr 2017 11:07:45 -0700, Miloch
wrote:

http://gizmodo.com/us-forces-just-dr...for-1794298289

Citing military sources, CNN reports the United States just dropped a
30-foot-long bomb with a blast yield equivalent to 11 tons of TNT on suspected
ISIS targets in Afghanistan. Nicknamed MOAB (short for “Mother of All Bombs”),
the weapon is the largest non-nuclear bomb in America’s arsenal. This is the
first time a MOAB has been used in combat.

Details of the attack remain sparse. According to CNN, the bombing aimed to take
out ISIS tunnels in the Achin district of Afghanistan’s Nangarhar province. The
network also says that the bomb was dropped from an Air Force Special Operations
Command MC-130 aircraft and that the military is “currently assessing the
damage.”

What we do know is that the MOAB is an extremely powerful weapon. First
developed in the lead up to the 2003 Iraq invasion, the bomb, officially named
the GBU-43/B Massive Ordnance Air Blast, had only been detonated in testing
before Thursday’s attack in Afghanistan. However, the MOAB served as a weapon of
psychological warfare after it was moved into the theater back in 2003. The US
military also distributed videos of test drops that show how the 21,600-pound,
GPS-guided bomb can level entire armies. They are indeed scary videos:

This story is developing, and we’ll update it as we learn new information. In
the meantime, don’t even bother hiding in a bunker. The MOAB is the best bunker
buster we’ve got.

Update 1:49pm - White House press secretary Sean Spicer confirmed the MOAB
attack in Afghanistan at a press conference. Spicer didn’t provide any more
detail about the attack but instead referred reporters to Gen. John Nicholson,
commander of US forces in Afghanistan, as well as the Defense Department for
more information. It remains unclear if President Trump authorized or even knew
about the bombing.



The Grand Slam bomb, developed by Barnes Wallace during the second
war, was a 22,000 lb. monster which was loaded with Torpex. Grand
Slam was a penetrator, able to bury itself up to 130 ft below the
surface before detonating.

The MOAB is loaded with H6 and is designed to air burst, not
penetrate, if I am not mistaken.

I wonder what the advantages are of the MOAB vs. the Grand Slam. As I
recall, the Grand Slam was extremely effective.


http://www.ajc.com/news/local-milita...yCaraZNF4UOcK/



Thanks, I appreciate the reply.

Aside from one being an air burst weapon and the other being a
penetrator, I am still curious about the advantages and why they would
use an air burst weapon against tunnels instead of a penetrator.

Further research revealed the USA has a device which is larger than
the MOAB, it is the GBU-57, a 30k lbs. penetrator. Capable of
penetrating 200 ft. of reinforced concrete, which is quite impressive.

http://newatlas.com/massive-ordnance...bu-57ab/20538/


http://www.businessinsider.com/moab-...ors_picks=true



Thanks, obviously it all depends upon the construction of the target.
I suppose open caves or mines would be susceptible to an air burst
weapon where a specifically constructed, underground bunker would
require a penetrator.

I appreciate the research you conducted.


BEFORE we went into Iraq, there was all kind of "talk" about the
mass of sophistocated deep, hidden bunkers that Hussein had built.

Never heard any more about them.---"Fake News"?

Dave:

#TriggerWarning------RUN
HIDE--WHIMPER--SUCK THUMB