Does TSA (fingerprinting of students etc) apply to FAA training outside the USA?

Just wondering... some people here (Holland) claim it does and that
students needs to get fingerprinted before receiving lessons from an
FAA CFII.


Of course it does - why shouldn't it? But: Not all kinds of flight
training require any such action.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

I am looking at FAA IR
training only, at PPL level.

That requires it, as the current interpretation stands.


The curious thing is that training with a JAA instructor is allowable
towards the FAA IR, and would not need any such checks.


Such training counts? Where does it say that? What is the exact text of
the TSA requirements towards what the student and what the instructor
have to do and how does it relate to what is said about JAA instruction
being valid?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...
I am looking at FAA IR
training only, at PPL level.

That requires it, as the current interpretation stands.


The curious thing is that training with a JAA instructor is allowable
towards the FAA IR, and would not need any such checks.


Such training counts? Where does it say that? What is the exact text of
the TSA requirements towards what the student and what the instructor
have to do and how does it relate to what is said about JAA instruction
being valid?


JAA instruction validity has nothing to do with the TSA its in Part 61
somewhere. However to signed off to take a checkride you need to be done so
by a FAA instructor so thats when the TSA requirement for being finger
printed comes in.

The TSA requirement apply for initial private training, Instrument and multi
training but not the Commercial.

Go to the AOPA website and check it out
http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regtsa.html

but specifically

Aliens
Question: I am pursuing a U.S. pilot certificate based on my foreign
license. Am I required to comply with the TSA rule?

Answer: No, TSA has clarified that getting a U.S. certificate based on a
foreign license does not apply to the requirements of the rule.

Question: Does the TSA rule also apply to U.S. flight instructors giving
instruction in foreign countries for a U.S. certificate or rating?

Answer: Yes, the TSA rule does apply to this situation.

Question: What about an alien who goes through the required verification,
including fingerprinting, to receive training? They complete their training
and then later pursue additional training at a different flight school.
Other than registering with TSA and the new flight school, must the
candidate complete all of the requirements again (fingerprinting, etc.) or
can they simply show proof that this was completed once when they register
for the new training?

Answer: With respect to an alien who goes on to do another certificate or
rating, either at the same school or a different one, the application to TSA
must be made. The fingerprints do not have to be taken again, because TSA
keeps them on file. However, the threat assessment and fee are still carried
out.

Question: Can an alien candidate register without a passport?

Answer: You are generally required to have a passport, but there are some
people with very special circumstances who cannot obtain a passport. TSA
will handle these situations on a case-by-case basis.

Question: Is an alien required to have a visa? I have heard of aliens who
have registered with TSA without a visa or green card. (Example: Some
Europeans are allowed to stay in the United States for 90 days without a
visa.)

Answer: "Visa" is not a required field, more of an "if applicable." TSA does
realize there are some instances in which students are not required to and
will not possess a visa.