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I filed an ADIZ/FRZ flight plan yesterday that went to the wrong Center.
Not once, not twice, not three times, but four times. It turns out that even if you file with Leesburg FSS for a DC area ADIZ plan it can be automatically routed to the wrong facility. I called Friday evening checked weather, notams TFR's, etc. and filed two flight plans. One ADIZ fro the next morning to get from Culpeper to Frederick, MD and then onto Grimes (8N1). Great place. www.goldenageair.org The other was for Sunday afternoon Westminster VOR (EMI) to Hyde Field (W32) where my job is based. Yes you can file for more than 24 hours in advance. The first flight plan went off without a hitch. I called Sunday morning to file my work related super secret flight plans and check on my previously filed flight plan suspicious that it was already gone. It was still there! I took off out of Grimes around 12:30 to pick up ADIZ flight plan over EMI around 13:00. I arrived over EMI at 13:05 and called Potomac Approach. He could not find the flight plan. I waited a few minutes and called again. He said it was still not there. I was ****ed! I believed it was lost and landed at Carroll County. I called Leesburg and Asked to speak to the supervisor. He told me it was there and sent it again. I took off confident that it was finally there. Upon climbing out I called Potomac once again and he told me it was not there. By now I was truly upset. I was going to be late for work. I thought they were screwing with me. Some of the controllers know my voice since I fly the ADIZ/FRZ so frequently. Some also do not like me. Improper service results in a phone call to QA/QC. Knowing I had a flight plan in the system, I called Leesburg again on the air to air. The quality of their transmitter was poor and this added to the frustration. I finally got the message across and she once again transmitted the plan. It finally had come through. I was able to finally get one my way towards Hyde Field with the requisite "remain clear of Class B and FRZ". Once I landed and parked I called Leesburg and asked to speak to the supervisor. He recognized my voice and starting apologizing profusely. It turns out that the default routing code for Flight plans originating at Westminster (EMI) is New York center. Huh? EMI is 20 or so miles for Baltimore? He went on to explain. In order to streamline things New York center has control of flights from EMI north, includes EMI. Potomac hands off directly to New York Center, taking Washington Center out of the loop. A very short loop for Jets. To get around the flight plan routing problem Leesburg has to manually change the routing for the flight plan to make sure it gets to Washington, DC and then on to Potomac. They failed to do this four times. I asked him where to send the bill. he said "you can send it here but we don't have any money to pay it." So next time you file from the north over EMI Make you the Briefer enters the correct routing code so you flight plan is available. Michelle |
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