Meaning of sign at end of runway at LAX

In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the end of the
runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water. Why is this
sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?
An interested passenger

Just a guess, a local noise abatement rule.



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| In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the
end of the
| runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water.
Why is this
| sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?
| An interested passenger
|

In article . com,
" wrote:

In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the end of the
runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water. Why is this
sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?

Apparently not.

rg

Google for "LAX noise abatement" returned this
http://www.lawa.org/airops/pdf/Secti..._Abatement.pdf

c. Unless specifically instructed otherwise by ATC, pilots
of all aircraft

departing toward the west shall, in accordance with
Subsection 4,

maintain runway heading until past the shoreline before

commencing any turns.



Good guess




--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P


"Jim Macklin" wrote
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| Just a guess, a local noise abatement rule.
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|| In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the
| end of the
|| runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water.
| Why is this
|| sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?
|| An interested passenger
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In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the end of the
runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water. Why is this
sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?

Probably, but it is just a reminder about procedure. You're not supposed to
take off with flaps up, or with slush on the wings, either, but there are
reminders about those things too.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
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In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the end of the
runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water. Why is this
sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?

Probably, but it is just a reminder about procedure. You're not supposed
to take off with flaps up, or with slush on the wings, either, but there
are reminders about those things too.

You are not supposed to take off with flaps up? Thats news to me.

a sweet reminder...

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In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the end of the
runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water. Why is this
sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?
An interested passenger

"Nasir" wrote in message news:8Yhpf.42998

You are not supposed to take off with flaps up? Thats news to me.

Sorry, I left the statement incomplete. I presumed understanding of the
conversation in context on the part of readers. My mistake, apparently. To
be totally accurate, politically correct, and free of liability, I suppose
my statement should have read "You're not supposed to take off with flaps
up in most large turbojet or turboprop powered transport aircraft, or in
many transport or non-transport aircraft of any power type, or in any other
size or type of aircraft where trailing edge flaps are installed and where a
prohibition against such operating configuration is contained in the POH,
Operating Certificate, or other applicable documentation." Does that help
to clarify things?

A local city passed noise ordinance, NOT a FAR. The sign is
local, but similar signs all over California and other areas
with busybody councils.
It is a reminder that they will arrest and fine for making
too much noise in their opinion.

--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P



"BTIZ" wrote in message
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|a sweet reminder...
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| wrote in message
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ups.com...
| In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the
end of the
| runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the
water. Why is this
| sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?
| An interested passenger
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There's another reason... reassuring passengers every time they pass by
it that pilots are going to obey the noise abatement rules. I've had
pax point out the signs at my local airport and after telling them what
it's for they usually nod approvingly.

--
Guy

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In the summer taking off from LAX for JFK a sign at the end of the
runway or thereabouts read no turns until over the water. Why is this
sign necessary for pilots? Don't they know that already?
An interested passenger