samll plane noise

The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Pilots are already regulated by the FAA. See 91.303 for acrobatic
operation, and other sections that set altitude minimums. There are
also areas where flight is restricted. So you might try to get the
altitudes raised or a restricted zone put around your house. Lots of luck.


daffy wrote:
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

There are noise abatement regulations in effect right now where they are
warranted. Motorcycles make more noise than prop airplanes, and they are far
more numerous and travel much nearer to people on the ground.

Bob Gardner

"daffy" wrote in message
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The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Isn't this how Skylune started?



"daffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

On 10 Aug 2006 13:28:39 -0700, "daffy"
wrote in .com:

The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise.

Here's the answer you got to the same question last January:

From: Don Tuite
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Subject: Planes drone out MLK celebration
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:51:33 GMT

On 17 Jan 2006 10:18:20 -0800, "daffy"
wrote:

First, the city we are talking about is Newark, not Norwalk.

Second, the small plane (GA) traffic is NON-STOP, where
a new plane passes overhead every 60 seconds or so
everyday, so this plane noise was not done delibertly
during the ML King celebration.

It was hard to hear the speaker while planes flew above
the event.

Yes, the noise lasts only 20 seconds, and if only a few planes
per hour were out, it wouldn't be an issue, but the airspace
above Newark is a pilots fancy.

This complaint makes sense. Planes heading for San Carlos, Palo
Alto, Reid Hillview, Hayward, and to some extent, Oakland tend to
exit the Livermore valley via the Sunol gap. The gravel ponds at
Niles are sort of a waypoint, and Lake Elizabeth marks a step
transition in the base of the San Francisco class B, so it's
another airplane magnet. Going west or north, the reporting point
for San Carlos is the Coyote Hills, which is a little north of the
Dumbarton Bridge tollboth. Inbound Palo Alto pilots report the
Nummi plant or the salt pile, a little to the south. I'm not sure
where the Hayward reporting point is from the south, but it's got
to be right around there. A little further south and you're in San
Jose's airspace. That actually protects Milpitas because flying
east of 680 puts you out of San Jose airspace.

The result is that Newark and Fremont take it in the shorts.

I don't have a solution, but the poster is by no means talking
through his hat.

Well, I do know one thing that makes logistical sense. Move Palo
Alto GA and San Jose freight to Moffet.

Don

On 10 Aug 2006 13:28:39 -0700, "daffy"
wrote:
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Although you sound like a yet another anti-aviation troll who bought a
house near an airport without researching it first, perhaps you would
like to post your latitude and longitude so that we can either avoid
your location if at all possible, tell you why you might be noticing a
lot of aircraft, or at the very least, fly by and wag our wings in an
aviation version of "hello"...

Interestingly, your IP address indicates that you are near Pasadena,
not the Bay Area... Perhaps you have more more problems than a bit of
buzzing in the air... One might hazard to guess that you should at
least know which ****in' part of the state you live in?

daffy wrote:
...
The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.


"Small" misspelled notwithstanding, an appropriate usenet
poster name on this topic?? Anyway, I live on 3/4 mile
centerline from the field where my small plane is based.
Small plane noise is no biggie, and my neighbors don't bitch
at all. Even bizjets -- if not the newer generation which
are really quiet, their velocities are such the event is
half over through one's reaction time.

Like what really frosts me is noise from neighbors' lawn
mowers, especially lawn tractors. I mean they're really
nice people and all, but if I can afford a small plane, why
those people should have the common courtesy to buy
top-shelf, with a real good muffler, like one new John Deere
I heard. Why, I never realized how loud my cheapass
Craftsman weed eater was, 'til I replaced it with actually
another cheapass Toro on sale but starts real quick. I
couldn't look like a dork wearing hearing protection like
the instructions show, especially when neighbors know I fly
a little airplane up there on departure from said field.

Ooooh....the event which makes me so mad I could get myself
arrested. Like the music from the ice cream vans cruising
at 5 mph. If I hear Scott Joplin in annoying electronic
tones at 85dB just one more time (like little kids recognize
Scott Joplin), I just might grab a shotgun and take out
those big bullhorn speakers atop the van. Those disgusting
little kiddies (a la W. C. Fields) just gotta have their ice
cream on Mommy's money on a hot day, or the small
businessman driving the van is just trying to earn a living.

Gotta be nice to have so few problems that what minor,
fleeting, things other people do can be such a nuisance.
Like seeing folks driving and yapping on a cell phone in
probably a pure social call, esp one of the two genders. To
self: enough already!! ;-)

Fred F.

I thought it was time to complain again.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On 10 Aug 2006 13:28:39 -0700, "daffy"
wrote in .com:

The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise.

Here's the answer you got to the same question last January:

From: Don Tuite
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.piloting
Subject: Planes drone out MLK celebration
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:51:33 GMT

On 17 Jan 2006 10:18:20 -0800, "daffy"
wrote:

First, the city we are talking about is Newark, not Norwalk.

Second, the small plane (GA) traffic is NON-STOP, where
a new plane passes overhead every 60 seconds or so
everyday, so this plane noise was not done delibertly
during the ML King celebration.

It was hard to hear the speaker while planes flew above
the event.

Yes, the noise lasts only 20 seconds, and if only a few planes
per hour were out, it wouldn't be an issue, but the airspace
above Newark is a pilots fancy.

This complaint makes sense. Planes heading for San Carlos, Palo
Alto, Reid Hillview, Hayward, and to some extent, Oakland tend to
exit the Livermore valley via the Sunol gap. The gravel ponds at
Niles are sort of a waypoint, and Lake Elizabeth marks a step
transition in the base of the San Francisco class B, so it's
another airplane magnet. Going west or north, the reporting point
for San Carlos is the Coyote Hills, which is a little north of the
Dumbarton Bridge tollboth. Inbound Palo Alto pilots report the
Nummi plant or the salt pile, a little to the south. I'm not sure
where the Hayward reporting point is from the south, but it's got
to be right around there. A little further south and you're in San
Jose's airspace. That actually protects Milpitas because flying
east of 680 puts you out of San Jose airspace.

The result is that Newark and Fremont take it in the shorts.

I don't have a solution, but the poster is by no means talking
through his hat.

Well, I do know one thing that makes logistical sense. Move Palo
Alto GA and San Jose freight to Moffet.

Don

daffy wrote:
....
The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Who are you to tell the FAA what they should do?
And why do you think it should be announced on a newsgroup concerned
with pilot issues?
Keep your day job -- you'll never make it as a politican!

"daffy" wrote in message
oups.com...
The Bay Area is plagued by small plane noise. I can't go outside
without hearing the droneing sound. From afar, it is like some sort
of low frequency noise, as the plane gets closer, it is very
irritating.

The FAA should regulate the noise levels of these planes before
they become a real nusance, and private aircraft will be completly
banned.

Presumably, your lawnmower is silent?

People in glass houses...