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Old October 19th 06, 07:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
d&tm
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for auction , no
one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89 Euro. It looks very suss
that they all come up about the same time and all come from China or Hong
Kong and from sellers with little or no feedback history. Seeing as they
claim to take cash on delivery I am putting in a bid , more out of curiosity
than anything else. I know these units are worth about $2000.
terry


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Old October 19th 06, 07:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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"d&tm" wrote in message
...
Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for auction , no
one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89 Euro. It looks very
suss
that they all come up about the same time and all come from China or Hong
Kong and from sellers with little or no feedback history. Seeing as
they
claim to take cash on delivery I am putting in a bid , more out of
curiosity
than anything else. I know these units are worth about $2000.
terry


When you open the box and find a brick, you'll have no way to get your money
back.

If possible, open the box with the UPS guy standing there.


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Old October 19th 06, 08:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
d&tm
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?


"Steve Foley" wrote in message
news:XrPZg.5507$5v5.2114@trndny08...
"d&tm" wrote in message
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Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for auction ,

no
one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89 Euro. It looks very
suss
that they all come up about the same time and all come from China or

Hong
Kong and from sellers with little or no feedback history. Seeing as
they
claim to take cash on delivery I am putting in a bid , more out of
curiosity
than anything else. I know these units are worth about $2000.
terry


When you open the box and find a brick, you'll have no way to get your

money
back.

If possible, open the box with the UPS guy standing there.

Oh, is that how it works? I have never a COD . I assumed COD meant that if
I wasnt satisfied that the article delivered was what I ordered I wouldnt
have to pay, after all it wouldnt have been "delivered" I havent actually
made the bid yet , so I think I'll let it pass. I am almost certain this is
a scam, in which case I would have liked to have taken it far enough to get
the *******(s) caught....but not if it is going to cost me $200
terry


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Old October 19th 06, 08:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ol Shy & Bashful
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

BIG TIME SCAM - BEWARE This has come up before and there is no
recourse if you lose money on the deal. Ebay has sent countless
warnings about these "too good to be true" listings. If they are out of
country keep on going. Even if they are in country, if you don't have a
way to reach them, beware. Some reputable dealers will use a "loss
leader" from time to time to generate action but they are established
people and reachable.
Caveat Emptor
d&tm wrote:
Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for auction , no
one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89 Euro. It looks very suss
that they all come up about the same time and all come from China or Hong
Kong and from sellers with little or no feedback history. Seeing as they
claim to take cash on delivery I am putting in a bid , more out of curiosity
than anything else. I know these units are worth about $2000.
terry


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Old October 19th 06, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
d&tm
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?


"Ol Shy & Bashful" wrote in message
oups.com...
BIG TIME SCAM - BEWARE This has come up before and there is no
recourse if you lose money on the deal. Ebay has sent countless
warnings about these "too good to be true" listings. If they are out of
country keep on going. Even if they are in country, if you don't have a
way to reach them, beware. Some reputable dealers will use a "loss
leader" from time to time to generate action but they are established
people and reachable.
Caveat Emptor
d&tm wrote:
Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for auction ,

no
one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89 Euro. It looks very

suss
that they all come up about the same time and all come from China or

Hong
Kong and from sellers with little or no feedback history. Seeing as

they
claim to take cash on delivery I am putting in a bid , more out of

curiosity
than anything else. I know these units are worth about $2000.
terry


Thanks shy,
After a bit more investigation I found so many things that just didnt add up
, it was clear that all of these 23 auctions were related even though they
used different names. Looking at the sellers feedback was most interesting.
Typically they had been ebay members for 4 or 5 years but only had 6 or 7
feedbacks and stangely all 7 would be on the same day and within minutes of
each other , and the other sellers would have their feedbacks on the same
day also ( and that day just happened to be yesterday). and if you actually
went into place a bid ( before the confirmation stage , they all had the
same message about postage and customs etc and all written in Italian! ).
terry


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Old October 23rd 06, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
jmk
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

I saw some of these last week when there were only two or three listed.
All were located in Hong Kong, but a trace of the seller placed the
seller in Sweden. ? Also, at least back then, the sales periods
were all short - usually just a day. Pretty much no way it could be
real.

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Old October 23rd 06, 04:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:24:32 +1000, "d&tm"
wrote in
:

Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for auction , no
one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89 Euro. It looks very suss
that they all come up about the same time and all come from China or Hong
Kong and from sellers with little or no feedback history.


I did a search on eBay for 'garmin 396' and didn't see the auctions
you mentioned. They must have completed by now, I suppose. Are you
able to provide links to a few of them?

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Old October 23rd 06, 05:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Neil Gould
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

Recently, Larry Dighera posted:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 04:24:32 +1000, "d&tm"
wrote in
:

Over the last 24 hours there were 23 new Garmin GPS396 up for
auction , no one is bidding on them except 1 which went for $89
Euro. It looks very suss that they all come up about the same time
and all come from China or Hong Kong and from sellers with little or
no feedback history.


I did a search on eBay for 'garmin 396' and didn't see the auctions
you mentioned. They must have completed by now, I suppose. Are you
able to provide links to a few of them?

If you log in to eBay, you can search the history for whatever auction
items you want. AFAIK, that option isn't available otherwise.

Neil


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Old October 23rd 06, 09:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:41:07 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote in
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If you log in to eBay, you can search the history for whatever auction
items you want.


Sure 'nuf. Thanks. It's under Advanced Search in the upper left of
the page.

A keyword search shows 33 completed auctions.

This looks like one of the bogus auctions to which the OP was
referring:
http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-GPS-396-A...QQcmdZViewItem


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...:feedback:2:us
Member Profile: oursdays (11)

Feedback Sco 11
Positive Feedback: 86.7%

Members who left a positive: 13
Members who left a negative: 2

never replied to my e-mails tryed conntecting serval times on
final price
Buyer blueice13085( 3 ) Oct-16-06 08:35 330038719903


Buys feedback for one penny then SCAMS GENUINE EBAYERS.. LOW LIFE
SCAMMER
Buyer scamauctionbuster007( 0 ) Oct-13-06 07:34 330038719587









http://search-completed.ebay.com/gar...advsearchQ3aUS
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Old October 23rd 06, 10:29 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
alexy
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Default ebay garmin gps 396 _ $100? what is going on ?

Larry Dighera wrote:

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 16:41:07 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote in
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If you log in to eBay, you can search the history for whatever auction
items you want.


Sure 'nuf. Thanks. It's under Advanced Search in the upper left of
the page.

A keyword search shows 33 completed auctions.

This looks like one of the bogus auctions to which the OP was
referring:
http://cgi.ebay.com/GARMIN-GPS-396-A...QQcmdZViewItem


The "red flag" on this one for me would be "payment methods: Other"

If they don't accept paypal, you have to ask yourself why. And there
are not many "good" answers.
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