Grunau Baby versus Eta?

Just kidding.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Bob K.

On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" wrote:
Just kidding.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Bob K.

Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
See ya, Dave

wrote:
On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" wrote:
Just kidding.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Bob K.

Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
See ya, Dave
No, he is just coming up for air.
Have fun
Udo

All the Baby needs is a weak day and it will knock the pants off the
Eta!

Go crappy gliders!

Udo wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" wrote:
Just kidding.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Bob K.

Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
See ya, Dave
No, he is just coming up for air.
Have fun
Udo

Tony wrote:
All the Baby needs is a weak day and it will knock the pants off the
Eta!

Go crappy gliders!

Udo wrote:

wrote:

On Nov 3, 6:55 pm, "Bob Kuykendall" wrote:

Just kidding.

Move along, nothing to see here.

Bob K.

Hey ! SHouldn't you be in the shop ?
See ya, Dave

No, he is just coming up for air.
Have fun
Udo


There is no such thing as a crappy glider.

There are state of the art super ships, and high performance racers, and
dependable club planes and gracefully ageing classics and collectable vintage.

Derelicts are just an opportunity to convert into one of the above. ;-)

Bruce
Owner of a well used , gracefully ageing shiny Cirrus - 36 years old and still a
thing of beauty - and it can out climb many of those top racers too. Some
advantages to lower wing loading, even if they disappear at warp speed when the
wings roll level...

There is no such thing as a crappy glider.

There are state of the art super ships, and high performance racers, and
dependable club planes and gracefully ageing classics and collectable vintage.

Derelicts are just an opportunity to convert into one of the above. ;-)

Bruce
Owner of a well used , gracefully ageing shiny Cirrus - 36 years old and still a
thing of beauty - and it can out climb many of those top racers too. Some
advantages to lower wing loading, even if they disappear at warp speed when the
wings roll level...

1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
painted in neat colors...

2. In a real world "stay up" contest, I think low sink rate will often
trump low wing loading. My money would be on the Eta...

3. A well flown Cirrus is tough to stay with in a thermal!

Finally, 4. You don't know till you try - so everybody should launch
more often on weak days or early in the day and find out! There is
nothing like an hour of grinding around below pattern altitude to
sharpen one's thermalling skills - especially with a little wind to
make it interesting!

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kirk.stant wrote:
There is no such thing as a crappy glider.

1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character, are usually
painted in neat colors...

These may have been on ras before but I think they're great:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643997/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643999/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643775/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0635155/M/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0643773/M/

GC

A few years ago a gent from Hus Bos was leading the
UK National Ladder (equivalent to the OLC) for a month
or two flying a Slingsby Tutor, which has even worse
performance than the Grunau Baby. A lot of hot glass
ship owners were really shown up by this!

Unfortunately the powers that be (glass ship owners?)
then changed the rules of the ladder to make a repeat
of this situation almost impossible! However it shows
what can be done in vintage gliders if you put your
mind to it.

Derek Copeland


At 12:06 07 November 2006, Graeme Cant wrote:
kirk.stant wrote:
There is no such thing as a crappy glider.

1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character,
are usually
painted in neat colors...

A few years ago a gent from Hus Bos was leading the
UK National Ladder (equivalent to the OLC) for a month
or two flying a Slingsby Tutor, which has even worse
performance than the Grunau Baby. A lot of hot glass
ship owners were really shown up by this!

Unfortunately the powers that be (glass ship owners?)
then changed the rules of the ladder to make a repeat
of this situation almost impossible! However it shows
what can be done in vintage gliders if you put your
mind to it.

Derek Copeland

At 12:06 07 November 2006, Graeme Cant wrote:
kirk.stant wrote:
There is no such thing as a crappy glider.

1. Totally agree - old gliders are neat, have character,
are usually
painted in neat colors...

Derek Copeland wrote:
A few years ago a gent from Hus Bos was leading the
UK National Ladder (equivalent to the OLC) for a month
or two flying a Slingsby Tutor, which has even worse
performance than the Grunau Baby. A lot of hot glass
ship owners were really shown up by this!

Unfortunately the powers that be (glass ship owners?)
then changed the rules of the ladder to make a repeat
of this situation almost impossible! However it shows
what can be done in vintage gliders if you put your
mind to it.


Yep, a glider (or a pilot) that flies is going to beat one that doesn't
every time! Or like we used to say in the fighter business, "Hamburger
in any wrapper is still hamburger"!

Cheers
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