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I got the following link to this video via the Matronics Zenith e-mail
list. What's interesting and fascinating about it is that it contains video from a cockpit camera that shows the impending mid-air collision and the cockpit view when the aircraft hits the ground under the chute: http://www.turbopilot.com/copa/image3/brs.wmv I guess cockpit cameras are becoming common enough that this sort of video would be inevitable. (Not sure why the pilot didn't see the towing aircraft - unless it was because the other plane was coming up from below to his right.) |
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![]() "Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . I got the following link to this video via the Matronics Zenith e-mail list. What's interesting and fascinating about it is that it contains video from a cockpit camera that shows the impending mid-air collision and the cockpit view when the aircraft hits the ground under the chute: http://www.turbopilot.com/copa/image3/brs.wmv I guess cockpit cameras are becoming common enough that this sort of video would be inevitable. (Not sure why the pilot didn't see the towing aircraft - unless it was because the other plane was coming up from below to his right.) Looks like the glider might have been released as there is "something" in the lower left of the windscreen, still pretty incredible video. ------------------------------------ DW |
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Jim Logajan writes:
I got the following link to this video via the Matronics Zenith e-mail list. What's interesting and fascinating about it is that it contains video from a cockpit camera that shows the impending mid-air collision and the cockpit view when the aircraft hits the ground under the chute: http://www.turbopilot.com/copa/image3/brs.wmv I guess cockpit cameras are becoming common enough that this sort of video would be inevitable. I'm surprised that the pilot believes he is alive today because of the parachute. The aircraft doesn't look severely damaged; the control surfaces are in place. What would have prevented him from gliding to a landing? While I have no problem with pilots saving themselves with a parachute if they wish to do so, it seems like this one at least gave up pretty quickly. And how did he manage not to see the other aicraft? The weather certainly looked clear. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... .. I'm surprised that the pilot believes he is alive today because of the parachute. The aircraft doesn't look severely damaged; the control surfaces are in place. What would have prevented him from gliding to a landing? While I have no problem with pilots saving themselves with a parachute if they wish to do so, it seems like this one at least gave up pretty quickly. And how did he manage not to see the other aicraft? The weather certainly looked clear. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. NOTICE!!!! Mxsmanic is NOT a pilot, has NEVER flown an aircraft and is NOT qualified to issue competent information regarding any aspect of the operation of any aircraft. |
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On Feb 10, 2:29 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Jim Logajan writes: I got the following link to this video via the Matronics Zenith e-mail list. What's interesting and fascinating about it is that it contains video from a cockpit camera that shows the impending mid-air collision and the cockpit view when the aircraft hits the ground under the chute: http://www.turbopilot.com/copa/image3/brs.wmv I guess cockpit cameras are becoming common enough that this sort of video would be inevitable. I'm surprised that the pilot believes he is alive today because of the parachute. The aircraft doesn't look severely damaged; the control surfaces are in place. What would have prevented him from gliding to a landing? While I have no problem with pilots saving themselves with a parachute if they wish to do so, it seems like this one at least gave up pretty quickly. And how did he manage not to see the other aicraft? The weather certainly looked clear. Aircraft can be incredibly hard to see, believe it or not..... |
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chris writes:
Aircraft can be incredibly hard to see, believe it or not..... If they are hard to see 200 feet away, how am I supposed to find and maintain visual separation with aircraft that are five miles away? This is an aspect of simulation that I find amusing. Some simmers get nervous if they cannot see traffic that's 15 miles away, even though everything within a ten-mile radius has huge red letters flashing above it that indicate aircraft type, call sign, and other stuff. I turn all the labeling off. If I can't see the aircraft, I can't see it. If I can see it but it's just a dot, there's no way that I can know the call sign or type. But at least that's a lot more like real life. It is surprisingly rare that I can even see an aircraft well enough to figure out the general type of airframe, and I figure that if I were close enough to read the tail number off the plane for ATC in real life, it would already be too late. Fortunately, mathematics can help. If everyone flies around completely at random, it's statistically wildly improbable that any aircraft will ever collide. In fact, traffic patterns, airways, altitude restrictions, and navaids actually increase the chances of a collision, rather than decreasing them. And the more accurate navigation becomes, the greater the danger, because you have aircraft aiming for waypoints with an accuracy of only a few feet, which is comparable to the dimensions of the airplane and thus guarantees a collision if they both arrive at the same waypoint at the same time (and the same altitude, which is made more probable by conventional altitude assignments). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. |
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![]() "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... both arrive at the same waypoint at the same time (and the same altitude, which is made more probable by conventional altitude assignments). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. In addition to being pompous and stupid, you are extremely rude. If you want a discussion about see-and-avoid, open a thread with that subject. QUIT HIJACKING THREADS!! |
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In article C7nzh.316$II6.159@trnddc07, "Casey Wilson"
wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... both arrive at the same waypoint at the same time (and the same altitude, which is made more probable by conventional altitude assignments). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. In addition to being pompous and stupid, you are extremely rude. If you want a discussion about see-and-avoid, open a thread with that subject. QUIT HIJACKING THREADS!! do not feed the trolls -- Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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How about the classic "What do you call 500 lawyers at the bottom of the
ocean? A good start." Bob Noel wrote: Bob Noel Looking for a sig the lawyers will hate |
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![]() "Casey Wilson" wrote in message news:sj9zh.704$E71.654@trnddc04... "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... . I'm surprised that the pilot believes he is alive today because of the parachute. The aircraft doesn't look severely damaged; the control surfaces are in place. What would have prevented him from gliding to a landing? While I have no problem with pilots saving themselves with a parachute if they wish to do so, it seems like this one at least gave up pretty quickly. And how did he manage not to see the other aicraft? The weather certainly looked clear. -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. NOTICE!!!! Mxsmanic is NOT a pilot, has NEVER flown an aircraft and is NOT qualified to issue competent information regarding any aspect of the operation of any aircraft. Gets old doesn't it... ------------------------------------ DW |
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