Temporarily deviating from IFR

You're flying happily over the desert in your small plane, in bright, clear
weather, on your IFR flight plan. You notice a plume of smoke a short
distance away at your nine o'clock, and looking more carefully, you see what
looks like a stranded car with some people standing around it. You'd like to
investigate just to see if it might be someone who needs help.

Given that you're on an IFR flight plan and under ATC control, how do you
handle this? I presume you can't just tell ATC that you're going to swing
south and drop to 2000 feet for a while to check something out. Do you ask
ATC to vector you towards the stranded car? Do you cancel IFR to go take a
look? Is there a way of suspending IFR temporarily so that you can leave your
planned route and altitude and check out the source of the smoke? What's the
procedure?

On a related note (whence the crosspost to r.a.p.), has this ever happened to
you? That is, have you ever seen something that looked like a possible case
of people in distress on the ground and decided to go over and take a look
and/or report it to ATC?

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Mxsmanic wrote in
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You're flying happily over the desert in your small plane, in bright,
clear weather, on your IFR flight plan. You notice a plume of smoke a
short distance away at your nine o'clock, and looking more carefully,
you see what looks like a stranded car with some people standing
around it. You'd like to investigate just to see if it might be
someone who needs help.

Given that you're on an IFR flight plan and under ATC control, how do
you handle this? I presume you can't just tell ATC that you're going
to swing south and drop to 2000 feet for a while to check something
out. Do you ask ATC to vector you towards the stranded car? Do you
cancel IFR to go take a look? Is there a way of suspending IFR
temporarily so that you can leave your planned route and altitude and
check out the source of the smoke? What's the procedure?

On a related note (whence the crosspost to r.a.p.), has this ever
happened to you? That is, have you ever seen something that looked
like a possible case of people in distress on the ground and decided
to go over and take a look and/or report it to ATC?

Yep, happened to me. I saw a ship spewing oil. I went closer (IFR in an
airliner, yet) to have a look.
Semd me 100$ and I'll tell you how it all worked.

Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
You're flying happily over the desert in your small plane, in bright, clear
weather, on your IFR flight plan. You notice a plume of smoke a short
distance away at your nine o'clock, and looking more carefully, you see what
looks like a stranded car with some people standing around it. You'd like to
investigate just to see if it might be someone who needs help.

Given that you're on an IFR flight plan and under ATC control, how do you
handle this? I presume you can't just tell ATC that you're going to swing
south and drop to 2000 feet for a while to check something out. Do you ask
ATC to vector you towards the stranded car? Do you cancel IFR to go take a
look? Is there a way of suspending IFR temporarily so that you can leave your
planned route and altitude and check out the source of the smoke? What's the
procedure?

On a related note (whence the crosspost to r.a.p.), has this ever happened to
you? That is, have you ever seen something that looked like a possible case
of people in distress on the ground and decided to go over and take a look
and/or report it to ATC?




Sure, you can....well nevermind.

Why don't you ever stop??
You've had you fun with the group, do something constructive for yourself,
instead of wasting away laughing your ass off with us.
Shoo.
Go away.
Do something else.
Shoo.

On Apr 10, 12:49 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
You're flying happily over the desert in your small plane, in bright, clear
weather, on your IFR flight plan. You notice a plume of smoke a short
distance away at your nine o'clock, and looking more carefully, you see what
looks like a stranded car with some people standing around it. You'd like to
investigate just to see if it might be someone who needs help.

Given that you're on an IFR flight plan and under ATC control, how do you
handle this? I presume you can't just tell ATC that you're going to swing
south and drop to 2000 feet for a while to check something out. Do you ask
ATC to vector you towards the stranded car? Do you cancel IFR to go take a
look? Is there a way of suspending IFR temporarily so that you can leave your
planned route and altitude and check out the source of the smoke? What's the
procedure?

On a related note (whence the crosspost to r.a.p.), has this ever happened to
you? That is, have you ever seen something that looked like a possible case
of people in distress on the ground and decided to go over and take a look
and/or report it to ATC?

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Sometimes if you see someone who's life seems to be in danger you can
jump out and parachute down to save them.

-Robert

Danny Deger writes:

The call would be something like, "Request deviation 10 miles north of
course, altitude block of 2,000 to 3,000 feet and 3 360s to investegate a
possible car in distress." But, if the weather is VFR, "Cancel IFR" might
be the best call.

Can you reactivate an IFR flight plan after cancelling it and continue from
some point within the plan, or do you have to file a brand new one if you want
to return to IFR.

I take it there's no such thing as "suspend IFR."

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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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You're flying happily over the desert in your small plane, in bright,
clear
weather, on your IFR flight plan. You notice a plume of smoke a short
distance away at your nine o'clock, and looking more carefully, you see
what
looks like a stranded car with some people standing around it. You'd like
to
investigate just to see if it might be someone who needs help.

Given that you're on an IFR flight plan and under ATC control, how do you
handle this? I presume you can't just tell ATC that you're going to swing
south and drop to 2000 feet for a while to check something out. Do you
ask
ATC to vector you towards the stranded car? Do you cancel IFR to go take
a
look? Is there a way of suspending IFR temporarily so that you can leave
your
planned route and altitude and check out the source of the smoke? What's
the
procedure?

On a related note (whence the crosspost to r.a.p.), has this ever happened
to
you? That is, have you ever seen something that looked like a possible
case
of people in distress on the ground and decided to go over and take a look
and/or report it to ATC?


Why do you insist on cross posting everthing?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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You're flying happily over the desert in your small plane, in bright,
clear
weather, on your IFR flight plan. You notice a plume of smoke a short
distance away at your nine o'clock, and looking more carefully, you see
what
looks like a stranded car with some people standing around it. You'd like
to
investigate just to see if it might be someone who needs help.

Simple -- request deviations in the direction needed by the distance needed,
request an altitude block, and request the correct number of 360 degree
turns.

The call would be something like, "Request deviation 10 miles north of
course, altitude block of 2,000 to 3,000 feet and 3 360s to investegate a
possible car in distress." But, if the weather is VFR, "Cancel IFR" might
be the best call.

Danny Deger


Given that you're on an IFR flight plan and under ATC control, how do you
handle this? I presume you can't just tell ATC that you're going to swing
south and drop to 2000 feet for a while to check something out. Do you
ask
ATC to vector you towards the stranded car? Do you cancel IFR to go take
a
look? Is there a way of suspending IFR temporarily so that you can leave
your
planned route and altitude and check out the source of the smoke? What's
the
procedure?

On a related note (whence the crosspost to r.a.p.), has this ever happened
to
you? That is, have you ever seen something that looked like a possible
case
of people in distress on the ground and decided to go over and take a look
and/or report it to ATC?

--
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Danny Deger writes:

The call would be something like, "Request deviation 10 miles north
of course, altitude block of 2,000 to 3,000 feet and 3 360s to
investegate a possible car in distress." But, if the weather is VFR,
"Cancel IFR" might be the best call.

Can you reactivate an IFR flight plan after cancelling it and continue
from some point within the plan, or do you have to file a brand new
one if you want to return to IFR.

I take it there's no such thing as "suspend IFR."

What's it to you? You'll never fly.


Bertie

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Danny Deger writes:

The call would be something like, "Request deviation 10 miles north of
course, altitude block of 2,000 to 3,000 feet and 3 360s to investegate a
possible car in distress." But, if the weather is VFR, "Cancel IFR"
might
be the best call.

Can you reactivate an IFR flight plan after cancelling it and continue
from
some point within the plan, or do you have to file a brand new one if you
want
to return to IFR.

I take it there's no such thing as "suspend IFR."

You are correct. Once you cancel, you have to refile.

Danny Deger