Senior Pilot and Command pilot ratings

What are the requirements for Senior Pilot and Command pilot these days?.
USAF that is.
Wally

Senior Pilot/Navigator is seven years of rated time after recieving wings
(actually measured in months). Command Pilot/Master Navigator is fifteen
years (also in months).
--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Wally Samuelson" wrote in message
news:MLw5b.345236$o%2.158562@sccrnsc02...
What are the requirements for Senior Pilot and Command pilot these days?.
USAF that is.
Wally

"Les Matheson" wrote in message
Senior Pilot/Navigator is seven years of rated time after recieving wings
(actually measured in months). Command Pilot/Master Navigator is fifteen
years (also in months).
--
Les
What are the requirements for Senior Pilot and Command pilot these
days?.
USAF that is.
Wally

Wot! No Total Flying Hour Requirement?

Not anymore.

--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message
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"Les Matheson" wrote in message
Senior Pilot/Navigator is seven years of rated time after recieving
wings
(actually measured in months). Command Pilot/Master Navigator is
fifteen
years (also in months).
--
Les
What are the requirements for Senior Pilot and Command pilot these
days?.
USAF that is.
Wally

Wot! No Total Flying Hour Requirement?

Yes... That went out when the "flying gates" were established (as I recall
in the mid-80s)

Mark

"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message
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"Les Matheson" wrote in message
Senior Pilot/Navigator is seven years of rated time after recieving
wings
(actually measured in months). Command Pilot/Master Navigator is
fifteen
years (also in months).
--
Les
What are the requirements for Senior Pilot and Command pilot these
days?.
USAF that is.
Wally

Wot! No Total Flying Hour Requirement?

"Mark" wrote in message
m...
Yes... That went out when the "flying gates" were established (as I recall
in the mid-80s)

Mark

"Phineas Pinkham" wrote in message
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"Les Matheson" wrote in message
Senior Pilot/Navigator is seven years of rated time after recieving
wings
(actually measured in months). Command Pilot/Master Navigator is
fifteen
years (also in months).
--
Les
What are the requirements for Senior Pilot and Command pilot these
days?.
USAF that is.
Wally

Wot! No Total Flying Hour Requirement?
Doesn't really matter. They all wear Aviation Badges anyway. Look like
Coxey's Army. Can't tell the Pilots without a Program!

"Phineas Pinkham" wrote:

Doesn't really matter. They all wear Aviation Badges anyway. Look like
Coxey's Army. Can't tell the Pilots without a Program!

USAF Command Pilot wings are much larger in size (rightfully so!)
than other aviation badges. I don't think it's no accident that I
haven't lost Dad's Command Pilot wings but I did (regrettably)
somehow manage to lose his medals back when I was a young
kid. The silver wings have tarnished a bit over the years but that's
OK since you can clearly see the imprint where he used his thumb
to pin the wings onto his dress blues.

-Mike Marron

Nope, badges come in two sizes. One for the ClassA blouse (large) and one
for the blue shirt (small). My Navigator wings are just the same size as a
pilots wings.
--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Mike Marron" wrote in message
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"Phineas Pinkham" wrote:

Doesn't really matter. They all wear Aviation Badges anyway. Look like
Coxey's Army. Can't tell the Pilots without a Program!

USAF Command Pilot wings are much larger in size (rightfully so!)
than other aviation badges. I don't think it's no accident that I
haven't lost Dad's Command Pilot wings but I did (regrettably)
somehow manage to lose his medals back when I was a young
kid. The silver wings have tarnished a bit over the years but that's
OK since you can clearly see the imprint where he used his thumb
to pin the wings onto his dress blues.

-Mike Marron

Mike Marron wrote:

"Phineas Pinkham" wrote:

Doesn't really matter. They all wear Aviation Badges anyway. Look like
Coxey's Army. Can't tell the Pilots without a Program!

USAF Command Pilot wings are much larger in size (rightfully so!)
than other aviation badges. I don't think it's no accident that I
haven't lost Dad's Command Pilot wings but I did (regrettably)
somehow manage to lose his medals back when I was a young
kid. The silver wings have tarnished a bit over the years but that's
OK since you can clearly see the imprint where he used his thumb
to pin the wings onto his dress blues.

-Mike Marron

Sorry, Mike, but, unless things have changed drastically, the wing
size remains the same with the exception that Senior Pilot has the
star affixed to the shield and Command Pilot adds the wreath around
the star. Otherwise, the wings are the same size.

Use to be--2000 hours total rated time or 1300 first pilot to get
senior pilot rating, plus seven years rated and 3000 hours or 2300
first pilot and 15 years rated to get command pilot. The first pilot
time requirements reflect a recognition of the difference between
small airplanes where an aviator is flying and multi-place airplanes
where an aviator is observing.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (ret)
***"When Thunder Rolled:
*** An F-105 Pilot Over N. Vietnam"
*** from Smithsonian Books
ISBN: 1588341038

Ed Rasimus wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

USAF Command Pilot wings are much larger in size (rightfully so!)
than other aviation badges. I don't think it's no accident that I
haven't lost Dad's Command Pilot wings but I did (regrettably)
somehow manage to lose his medals back when I was a young
kid. The silver wings have tarnished a bit over the years but that's
OK since you can clearly see the imprint where he used his thumb
to pin the wings onto his dress blues.

Sorry, Mike, but, unless things have changed drastically, the wing
size remains the same with the exception that Senior Pilot has the
star affixed to the shield and Command Pilot adds the wreath around
the star. Otherwise, the wings are the same size.

I was simply comparing the size of USAF Command Pilot wings to the
size of wings of other wings worn by various military personnel
(paratrooper wings, for example).

I could be wrong, but when I visually compare Command Pilot wings
to any other wings -- Command Pilot wings soar above the rest WRT
size, no?

Use to be--2000 hours total rated time or 1300 first pilot to get
senior pilot rating, plus seven years rated and 3000 hours or 2300
first pilot and 15 years rated to get command pilot. The first pilot
time requirements reflect a recognition of the difference between
small airplanes where an aviator is flying and multi-place airplanes
where an aviator is observing.

-Mike Marron