Boeing 7E7 Announcement

The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
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The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

Sure, the Japanese are nice people.

Wonder if they are working on a 7E7 Tanker version already?

Jack

(in Everett WA where the 7E7 will be assembled from major assemblies made
everywhere)


"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
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The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of

"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
m...
The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

Let's see...is Japan now, or likely in the near future, going to be a
competitor in the large transport arena? No. Is it rather common to sub out
fabrication of major components to companies located in other nations? Yes.
Does Japan offer a potential sizeable market for an aircraft like the 7E7?
Yes. I'd therefore say that it surely does not sound like a BAD deal for
Boeing.

Wasn't there some serious discussion just a couple of years back between
Airbus and the PRC to do a similar deal?

Brooks

"Jack G" wrote in message
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Wonder if they are working on a 7E7 Tanker version already?

Jack

(in Everett WA where the 7E7 will be assembled from major assemblies made
everywhere)

This is not so different from the major sections of the 777 the Japan makes.
The shop in Everett mostly asssmebles pieces, plus the wire community. The
interior is mostly modules made elsewhere.

"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
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The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of

This is the first time wings have been outsourced. Note also that
engineering is being outsourced as well as manufacturing.

Jack


"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
m...
The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

Let's see...is Japan now, or likely in the near future, going to be a
competitor in the large transport arena? No. Is it rather common to sub
out
fabrication of major components to companies located in other nations?
Yes.
Does Japan offer a potential sizeable market for an aircraft like the 7E7?
Yes. I'd therefore say that it surely does not sound like a BAD deal for
Boeing.

Wasn't there some serious discussion just a couple of years back between
Airbus and the PRC to do a similar deal?

Brooks

"Jack G" wrote in message
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This is the first time wings have been outsourced.

No, it is not--Airbus has already inked a deal with the PRC to produce wings
for the A320. See, among other sites:

www.lehmanlaw.com/FAQ/faq/Aviation.htm

Note also that
engineering is being outsourced as well as manufacturing.

Now that part would be new, to the best of my knowledge. But not exactly
earthshattering--IIRC I read recently where other major US firms have
already been outsourcing engineering work to firms in India to take
advantage of the cheaper cost for professional services there.

Brooks


Jack


"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
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The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

Let's see...is Japan now, or likely in the near future, going to be a
competitor in the large transport arena? No. Is it rather common to sub
out
fabrication of major components to companies located in other nations?
Yes.
Does Japan offer a potential sizeable market for an aircraft like the
7E7?
Yes. I'd therefore say that it surely does not sound like a BAD deal for
Boeing.

Wasn't there some serious discussion just a couple of years back between
Airbus and the PRC to do a similar deal?

Brooks

Is this really good news for Boeing...?

Boeing told all the states to "compete" to have the 7E7 built in their
backyard. I feel it will soon be exposed as a hoax. I'm thinking the Boeing
executives NEVER had any intention to build in any other location than
Everett- just work the government for whatever tax breaks they can squeeze
out of them.

Our tax dollars paid for a special session of the legislature to meet and
vote the biggest corporate tax incentive yet, which equates to $150,000 in
tax breaks per worker, per year. In other words Boeing gets free labor on
the 7E7 (per the local news as reported earlier tonight).

They even screwed the workers out of the unemployment benefits due them.

Yeah, I know we need the jobs here- But this just leaves a real sour taste .
.. .


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"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
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The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

I should have said BOEING wings.

Jack


"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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"Jack G" wrote in message
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This is the first time wings have been outsourced.

No, it is not--Airbus has already inked a deal with the PRC to produce
wings
for the A320. See, among other sites:

www.lehmanlaw.com/FAQ/faq/Aviation.htm

Note also that
engineering is being outsourced as well as manufacturing.

Now that part would be new, to the best of my knowledge. But not exactly
earthshattering--IIRC I read recently where other major US firms have
already been outsourcing engineering work to firms in India to take
advantage of the cheaper cost for professional services there.

Brooks


Jack


"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
t...

"Scott Duncan" wrote in message
m...
The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

Let's see...is Japan now, or likely in the near future, going to be a
competitor in the large transport arena? No. Is it rather common to
sub
out
fabrication of major components to companies located in other nations?
Yes.
Does Japan offer a potential sizeable market for an aircraft like the
7E7?
Yes. I'd therefore say that it surely does not sound like a BAD deal
for
Boeing.

Wasn't there some serious discussion just a couple of years back
between
Airbus and the PRC to do a similar deal?

Brooks

(Scott Duncan) wrote in message om...
The news today about Boeing building the 7E7 and giving the wing to
Japan to build sounds like it was taken directly out of the text of
Micheal Crichton's book Airframe, where some unscrupulous executives
at an ailing aircraft manufacturer give away closely guarded secrets
to turn a quick profit at the cost of future American jobs. Is this
really good news for Boeing...?

Michael Crichton is rabidly anti-Japanese, as his novel "Rising Sun"
amply demonstrates. For further proof of his racism and use of racial
epithets, see his novel "Congo", where he describes Japanese and
Chinese businessmen as "slants" and "chinks".